And our buddy says they all asked him the right questions, he told them the
right answers, and then they just wanted to argue, that's when he said "its
simple, don't argue with strokes".

RMC
-----Original Message-----
From: Katherine V. Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
To: RMC <halcyon@ha*.ne*>
Cc: RLatulip@ao*.co* <RLatulip@ao*.co*>; cavers list <cavers@ge*.co*>;
techdiver mail list <techdiver@aquanaut.com>; REBREATHER List
<rebreather@nw*.co*>
Date: Monday, August 03, 1998 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: Will is a dangerous pretender


>Robert - these guys all copied the wrong stuff and then copied each
>other . None of them knows what they are doing.
>
>
>RMC wrote:
>>
>> Ray,
>>
>> What  Will does not understand or care to is that sensor placement as
>> he describes it is not optimum for long dives and is no longer
>> considered optimum by those whom have the luxury of long term
>> knowledge and exposure to these things. Water vapor will release
>> inside the hydrophobic membrane (or any where downstream of the
>> scrubber) that protects the sensor from entrained water as soon as a
>> temperature drop occurs (all in good time). The temperature he
>> describes (100f) is actually quite low for the exit of a scrubber. It
>> is more like 110-125 after a 30+ minute crank in reasonable
>> environments with most scrubbers. Therefore you get adequate temp drop
>> to create a dewpoint release of water vapor sraight to the sensor
>> face, inside the membrane/sensor housing.
>>
>> Extreme and parrellel sensor variations are possible at this point
>> (remember the averaging of the two closest). Several re-packagers of
>> so called "new CCR" systems today have simply copied the old flawed
>> system, further encouraging folks like Will to assume this is the
>> correct placement. He wants to use a device that was designed for a
>> very specific task for something entirely different and incompatible
>> (to overcome his lack of committment to become physically fit enough
>> to dive on proper equipment). The damaging thing is that Will sounds
>> like a true authority on these issues when in fact he is wrong on more
>> things than he is right.
>>
>> Will, you need to quit acting like you are a pro. You are dangerous
>> with this sort of pretending. Some poor fool will think you actually
>> know what you are talking about instead of realizing you are just
>> reading from old outdated literature which are actually recaps of old
>> coversations about things that did not work perfectly as you describe.
>>
>> Slow down and look around and LISTEN with your mouth shut for awhile,
>> you will learn more, worked for me.
>>
>> RMC
>>
>> Robert M Carmichael
>> HALCYON / Brownie's Third Lung
>> http://www.halcyon.net
>> http://www.browniedive.com
>> http://www.selfrescue.com
>> http://www.technicaldiving.com
>
>

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