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Rich, they do none of it right , as you know - let them get bent. This way they will remember the pain and either do it all right, or not do it at all. By the way, we are doing plenty of things down there that are in fact exertion, although efficient and deliberate, as you would expect, much like your fish dives. I would not think you would want to beat your joints up at that pressure, either. Tell the complainers to send you the schedule they did, and you can tell them what they did wrong. I will tell them to quit diving or get in shape - not what they want to hear. Not to be a prick , but you are seing that the things people do in "emulation" of me they live through. If they rally emulated me, they would be emailing you asking how far the human body can really go, having had a taste of really being alive. Let's see what this thing brings and make plans at the last minute. I still have Leon Sinks dives and Wakulla going on anyway. If your boy bails out again , my team will want to keep diving all year if it is clear ( we have the ongoing access to all of these places ). I personally would rather do the stuff in the woods during the winter, or the ocean. Richard Pyle wrote: > > > By the way, anyone who "emulates" me knows the emulation has to be > > complete. Conditioning is everything ( assuming no preconditons). VO2 > > Max is the best single indicator of deco success in this case. > > That's not true - not "everyone" who emulates you understands the whole > picture. As usual, after my last public post to you on this, I got inundated > by a series of supporting messages from various people. I was actually > surprised to hear of at least two specific cases where someone was bent while > specifically taking *your* advice to avoid "weenie" long decompression times. > These were people who were specifically influenced by your postings, I am > told. I was worried about the potential for this to happen, but apparently it > already *has* happened. Obviously, they had not made a "complete" emulation > of your practices (zero exertion, near-saturation bottom times, adequate > thermal protection, etc, etc, etc). Even if someone does emulate you > perfectly, there is no guarantee they can get away with it, and there is > certainly no guarantee that you will continue to get away with it. > > All I'm saying is that when you go boasting about your 8.5-hr decos > follwoing 6 hrs at 300, you make it CLEAR to everyone the specific > factors you have going in your favor - both the ones you usually talk > about (conditioning) and the ones you seldom mention (zero exertion). > Also, you need to make it clear that it's not especially wise to > extrapolate your ratios to apply to one hour at 300 requiring less than > 90 minutes of deco - I doubt even you would do that - especially on a > dive involving swimming. > > The irony of all of this is that YOU were the one who first made it > apparent to me years ago that people will read what you say on these > lists and use it incorrectly to do dangerous things. Since then, I have > tried to be very clear in my public postings about the limitations of > extrapolating the information, and have even taken a lot of shit from you > & others just to avoid talking about some of the really marginal stuff > (e.g., "Papua New Guinea Pig" dives). > > When is a good time for Bimini? My schedule is pretty thick for the rest > of the year - so it might have to wait until '99. Be forewarned: you'll > need some reading material on the boat while you wait for me to finish my > deco. Like I said, been there, done that on the bends thing, and I have > no intentions of risking that again, regardless of how "proven" your > magic carpet deco procedures are. > > Rich -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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