Will,

I only hope  that this epistle was an attempt at humor. You are
beginning to tread on very thin ice lately and we are really wondering
what your allegiances and agenda are. You know nothing about George's
relationship with JJ (which goes back 9 years) and nobody in our
organization appreciates your public speculation on this matter. This is
a  private and complex issue not subject to your arrogant
characterization (i.e. friends with G. because he is the permit
holder).   Another little bit of advise.  Research your smart ass
remarks a bit more in the future, for your own sake. Your sarcastic and
unflattering reference to Alton Hall as George's "Florida Yokel lawyer"
demonstrates very questionable judgment. Hopefully,  Alton Hall takes no
umbrage at your cutesy rural reference and only perceives this as one
more example of  Smither effluvia. 

As for technology, you for some reason think that we wear blinders. We
employ whatever methods are feasible and practical given the resources
and constraints imposed by a volunteer organization. There is an
overriding realization within the WKPP that there is no substitute for
skill and teamwork. Technological gimmickry can go just so far and we
will not experiment with technologies which have not been validated. 
CCRs and nickel metal hydride battery powered scooters are useless in
the hands of those who are unfamiliar with the challenges of extreme
exposure, long range diving in an overhead environment. 

As an  "Expert Systems Designer" I would most appreciate your
enlightening us about what sort of transportation and breathing system
you would propose for exploration in Wakulla. Explain in detail what
methods you have for dealing with a breathing device failure, a scooter
failure, thermal protection failure and a simultaneous breather and
scooter failure. Will, there is no tree node or branch allowed which
terminates in "diver terminated".  

For your edification you need to know that it is almost impossible to
position a saturation habitat  much greater than 80fsw within Wakulla.
For the excursion bottom times you are suggesting (i.e. 6 - 30 hrs) you
are talking of  deco times on the order of 7 hrs before entry to  the
sat habitat is possible. Have you or any other of your USDCT team
members ever been subjected to this lengthy an in water exposure ?  It
is not possible to complete bottom times of this duration on  anything
other than a rebreather. Tell us when, what and where is the rebreather
to be employed at Wakulla. When and where will the training take place
outside of the local swimming pool?  Do you think that people should
practice under something approaching real conditions or is that just
wasteful frivolity?

On another note…. George's Father's boat captain first observed you
swaggering along the docks of Saba clutching a "Gavin" scooter. This was
duly reported back to George. His characterization of you was something
to the effect of "where did the chain smoking tobacco stained walking
cadaver with the 12" dick get one of your scooters?". 

Will, we now have one of our dive teams named after you.  No joke. They
are affectionately referred to as the 12-D team. In fact Chris Werner,
12-D team leader,  thought you were really a George fake. Now he knows
better.



Regards,

Bill  



William M. Smithers wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 26 Jul 1998, Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
> 
> > Divemaster, ANDI for gas, IANTD for Supervisor ratings with Mount as my
> > certifier,
> 
> Hmm, I could quote here, but I won't bore the general public.
> 
> > I was a TDI Mix instructor until Gilliam booted me for
> > discussing Rob Palmer's death in an unflattering fashion,
> 
> make that a *paper* TDI instructor, as you yourself have
> spend endless flames emphasising - that you got your
> cert by merely asking.  This is Hypocrasy to an unbearable
> level.  We all know this had nothing to do with Palmer's death.
> 
> > and I am
> > currently enrolled in a NAUI OW instructor course with Larry Coyne as my
> > instructor.
> 
> Great, I'm sure you will make an *excellent* OW instructor.  ;)
> 
> >   I have no intention of ever teaching diving to anyone.
> 
> Good, because JJ is infinitely more articulate, and while
> he has a certain reserved judgemental smugness that I would expect
> from the WKPP (and a presumptious, young, idealistic Vegan), he still
> out-refines your ass by a mile - no question. Granted, his Vegan
> beliefs pre-select more people than is
> reasonable, but you still have to respect the guy.   George,
> I seriously suspect that JJ, like most of your team, simply
> respects the fact that you are the permit holder, much more
> than the fact His Holiness is the one who holds that permit.
> There is very little explanation otherwise.
> 
> > As you all can see I still dive wherever
> > and whenever I want and will do so as long as there is water. You can
> > not beat my reality with a stick , a magazine, or a techdiver list.
> >
> 
> Yet to be seen.  We're all watching your current John Henry-esque efforts
> to rage against the inevitable encroachment of technology upon
> your little copper mine.  Like it or not, the USDCT has your ass whupped
> on the technology front, and I expect that will continue until
> you manage to surpass Bill Mee's (et al) '60's mentality toward Systems
> Design.  By all accounts (except yours, of course), their high-tech
> mapper is exceeding all expectations, and with the saturation
> habitat they've got in place, six, eight, ten, or even thirty
> hour bottom times are entirely within reason.  Face it, even *those* guys
> will manage to eat your lunch when they've got 30 hours of
> bottom time to expend.  Your recent pleadings to the various lists
> for support do nothing but back up the fact that you're running scared.
> 
> 
> >    I can tell you all this. Somebody faked me on "hotmail" and sent this
> > around to our sponsors, my boss, and to others. This I am suing the
> > service provider for, as there were damgages. This may lead to one of
> > you out there. Carmichael was equally damaged in this, and he is also
> > suing. Until this is resolved, there will be no email with "George
> > Irvine" on it from any source. It will all come from my family and
> > friends.
> 
> George, that wouldn't stand up in court for two seconds, which
> I'm sure you'd know if you didn't have a Florida Yokel for
> a lawyer.
> 
> >    I realize that there are several big time dive instructors out there
> > who have a tough time with me. However, there are enough people out
> > there who have learned our methods to keep all of these guys honest with
> > or without me. That is what they are so pissed about, and that is why
> > they focus on me.
> 
> No, they focus on you for the simple reason that, at the the end, you are
> a rude prick.
> 
> >    You can't beat me because it is not "me", it is "us" - everyone who
> > sees the reality. Face it and quit diverting to me.
> >
> 
> People divert to you for a reason - you are a magnet for
> abuse.  I think the "deep air" message has gotten across
> quite well, and for that, you are to be congratulated - it
> was about time.  But that point is obvious, here in the
> late '90's, and as far as I can tell, you are just railing
> against the inevitable machine.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Will

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