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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:50:07 -0400
From: Wrolf Courtney <wrolf@co*.ne*>
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
CC: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>, techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Brett Gilliam and George Irvine
You know, I have been wondering about this for quite some time.

Is Brett Gilliam's participation in US Navy experiments in 1971 the reason why
the WKPP crowd call him a pot smoker?  If so, it seems like a distortion of the
facts.

If you call him a fat slob, then listeners assume you mean he is overweight now.
If you call him a pot smoker, then again, listeners assume now.  But no one has
come forward with any such evidence.  If I were Brett, I would sue.

On a possibly related topic, what is with George Irvine?  First we get an
unusual
(to say the least) message that he would no longer be reading techdiver, but
that
messages could be relayed to him if sent to a particular address.

Then someone asks why, only to be flamed by a WKPP'er for making fun of George's
legal problems.  But what are his legal problems?

Then George starts posting under names like Kathy van Deusem Irvine
<kirvine@sa*.ne*> and Ian Irvine <iirvine@sa*.ne*>.  On the very first
such
post he makes a brave effort to assume the persona, but it breaks down by the
end.

So what could explain all this?

The most common guess that I have heard is that he is being sued for slander,
and/or libel.  But who?  Brett Gilliam is of course the obvious choice,
especially when you see what he has on his web site about George.
http://www.tdiusa.com/articles/fear.html.

But this was such old hat.  And why have none of the WKPP crowd let it slip -
called Brett Gilliam a "fat pot smoking lawyer loving slob", perhaps.

Another possibility is that George has taken his interest in law enforcement to
the point of interference.  My recollection is that George's silence started
shortly after he had boasted of calling up some sheriff in the Mid-West, to
claim
that a diving death was in fact murder.  A death with whose circumstances George
had no personal familiarity.

But I do not really see counsel advising not reading the techdiver list as a
defense strategy.  But the law in America always surprises me.  And why would he
start posting under transparently fake names?  Perhaps because he cannot help
himself, but then we are getting into a whole different kind of explanation.

And what would that kind of explanation be?  I assume Narcissistic Personality
Disorder, http://www.mentalhealth.com/dx/fdx-pe07.html, but I am not a
psychologist.  A brief hospitalization would explain the absence from the list
in
which he could not even lurk

It does not explain the George/Kathy/Ian shell game though.

My initial guess was that George was having problems at Sears.  Or rather,
Morgan
Stanley Dean Witter Reynolds, since Sears had just sold the financial services
to
Morgan Stanley.  This incident started shortly after he started posting to
techdiver from his Bloomberg terminal, i.e. at work.

So this scenario would be that Sears notices how much e-mail George is doing on
his Bloomberg, and realizes that he is not doing his work.  Rather than canning
him, he agrees not to participate in techdiver ... but sneaks back on, once he
learns that they are not really watching carefully.

So, any takers for any of these scenarios?  Any facts to be added?  E-mail to me
directly if you want to remain anonymous, but remember to broadcast the flames.

--
Wrolf

Wrolf's Wreck:     http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf
Wrolf's Net.Wreck: http://www.concentric.net/~Wrolf/netmgmt.shtml


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