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> Ok enough of the tack hammer, here comes the 2x4, I think we need the Chris Elmore translator for this one... > warm water = wet suit + aluminum tank. > > Cold water = dry suit + steel tank. > > Deep water is cold water. Warm water is shallow water. Shit, like I said in another article, I don't mind the holier-than-thou stuff, but can't you guys make it consistent? Here you say deep requires dry... on cavers, Georgre is saying 120' is deep (well at least for air), and Bill Mee is saying they dive wet down to ~200, but (understandably) have concerns about limiting your bottom time b/c boats do relocate more often than caves... now to me 200 is kinda deep. Frankly I'd take Bill's opinion over yours, both he and George seem to talk about using wetsuits for limited exposure dives even when fairly deep. You've got a system worked out for yourself, that's dandy. > You will never understand that just as you so casually dismissed Gavin's > words, which if you had a fucking clue you might realize applies to a hell of > a lot more than diving, pal. No Al, you seemed like you wanted to mimic Gavin's words without trying to understand them. He said to do it right. You mis-read them to do it the way Al thinks is right. You insisted that staying dry and reducing deco was the only way to do it right, that we had to wear a drysuit for most anything. I simply upped your ante. If you think the risk of wetsuit diving is so great that you have to slam others for doing it, then I can certainly suggest that diving over 1ata is risky. And you said $$ was no issue, so I said fine, go buy a Newtsuit. Just as dives in Wakulla might demand the use of a scooter to reduce time, gas requirements, and thus deco, a 30' dive in the quarry doesn't require a scooter. And just as on many dives a dry suit can be very needed or at least desirable, on others it is not. That was my point, you refused to acknowledge it. don't take what you don't need, I thought that was a core tenet to the philosophy. When you don't need a drysuit, don't wear one. You reduce overheating on the surface, having an extra pony (for inflation gas), the 1st stage, the hose connecting the two. > Maybe if you need to overintellectualize it some more you could read Pirsig > and go insane, read it already thanks. I was already insane before. > underwater, or twist my words to suit your purposes. Hell I'd never do that. It'd be like trying to bring bungies back into the debate every time you repsond about an issue that has nothing to do with them. Mike -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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