Tom, I do not think Bill was talking about IANTD when he mentionend the 15 instructor deaths or the tech deaths. But now that you mention it, I guess we have to increase the numbers by the addtional ones that were in fact IANTD, whatever they were ( I could not read all of that post - I kept thinking my contacts had fallen out). We agree with you totally on the tech "wanabees", but they are includeed since the agency that prides itself in deep air has "technical" in its name, and so they are "tech" deaths in that sense. Anyway, the numbers are too high. Where they can be avoided, like the simple stuff of using WKPP proceedures for tank marking and so forth, changes should be made. As far as erasing the bullshit created by certain well-known strokes, that will take more time, more hammering, and more losses, but you certainly can do your part, as we all can, unles you think being nice to these guys is more important. You mention that I had a bc failure in Wakulla - I did - on the surface, and had to change it out. I should have caught it when I rigged up. I have had plenty of them fail, and it has never made me anything but pissed off. I had one fail on my kid on the wall at Cat Cay, but I made him keep carying the lobster bag anyway, since it was his first wall dive and he didn't know any better than to keep swimming. Were you on the dive where his bc stuck on and he was scootering upside down? I looked back and the two of them ( Carmichael's little brother and Ian were followng me upside down - their first scooter dive). He disconnected it and kept going. By the way he already quit diving after seeing so many people get killed. So did Whitney. I consider a real bc failure when you go to inflate it, and you look back and somebody has tied it up in bungy cords, or you go to inflate your bc and there are TWO of them, or you have a bc that has one inflator on one side and one on the other. The cluster f-- that ensues is more dangerous than any of the scenarios that preceeded it. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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