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From: <DEnig@ao*.co*>
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:49:24 EDT
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: bondage wing challenge was

In a message dated 98-07-16 10:58:38 EDT, you write:

<<Dan,

<< Can you expound on the method used to "set up your bungee cords"  ?
<< Did you place it tighter below and looser on top? 
<< Did you measure length or strech to set them up? do you have any
figures if
you <<did?

First on setup, I fully inflated the bladder and checked the overpressure
valve. Then I backed it off some and left it inflated. I then took the
silicone cords and pre-stretched them all to the same lengths. When I first
took the cords out, they were stiff and I stretched them about a foot, foot
and a half to soften them up and so they would be long enough to fit around
the inflated bladder. I didn't measure as I stretched them so I'm estimating
about a foot and a half max. They all ended up at about the same length give
or take a 1/32 of an inch.
When I installed them, I tied them off (square knots) a little tighter at the
bottom than at the top.(left slightly longer tails on the bottom cords) Once I
got them tied off, I made sure that I could still orally inflate all the way. 

<<Have you experienced any buoyancy/ inflation problems? 

Absolutely no problems with bouyancy or inflation. I haven't had the inflater
stick, the bladder hasn't failed to inflate, it hasn't popped the overpressure
valve, I got lucky first time around and was satisfied with my trim so I
didn't have to retie the bands. I've also had no problems with band stiffness
in cold water but I do have to admit that they have only been in cold water a
couple of times so it's too early to tell if long term will affect them. I can
only go based on other OMS wings that have had many ice dives with no
stiffness. Probably due to the compound the bands are made of?

<<Can you fully inflate the wing orally?

Yes I can fully inflate it orally. In fact, that's a routine check for me when
I first pull the wings out of my gear bag and when I clean them up after
diving.

 <<Again Dan I dont want to bash, I just want to know exactly what you
guys
are <<doing, so we all can know what to do, and what to advise other  OMS
wing
owners <<not to do. 

 << Al Marvelli     aka  KybrSose@ao*.co*

I understand that you personally are not trying to bash. Neither am I. The OMS
work for me as they do for many others. If down the road I find something that
I can see works better, I'll use it. What I do like is that when I dive a
single cylinder, the wings don't fold out around it. That way I run less of a
risk of accidental puncture. And as I put in my last post, the wings are
easier on my neck. A lot less strain. And, my cylinders stay in place without
dropping down my back or riding up in the water like with the old BC. To those
that don't like the "bondage wings" hey if the wings you have work for you,
then more power to you. It's what you like, what you are comfortable with and
what works for you. I personally don't care if someone uses OMS wings or some
other brand. If it works for them that's all that matters. It is odd tho that
OMS gets bashed a lot here but no other brand of wing does. And it seems that
the biggest bone of contention about them is the "bondage". Well if that is
true, all one needs to do is not put the silicone cords on the wing. Outside
of the cords, is there really any other major difference between the wings?
Hope that went a ways to answering  your questions.
Dan
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