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From: "Tom Mount" <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Cc: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: cylinders-BC's etc
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 12:04:02 -0400
To All

I'm not telling anyone what to do or not to dive.

I'm suggesting that they take whatever cylinders they are using and see if
they can swim them without the assistance of a wing such as in event of a
failed BC.

As I have done this for myself I know which cylinders I can swim with a
failed BC.

I dived 80's for years (did not like them) then went to cressi 70's at 3000
psig still my favorite ocean cylinders. They are slightly bouyant when
empty(not like US steel 70's). Loved these still do, but when teaching they
are not useable as I feel the instructor must insure he/she has adequate gas
to share with a student who may be stressed and breath more than there
normal RMV. Thus I have played with and used the Cressi 106 (same cylinders
as OMS 98's). These cylinders when empty float with the bottom half of the
cylinders sticking out of the fill bucket. I can and have to verify to
myself swim these without the use of my BC. So I feel safe in them. I also
have practiced with the 85's which is what I use most of the time now in the
ocean and can and practice off and on to be sure that I can swim them thus I
feel safe in these cylinders as well.

What I recommended is that each person practice this(with the cylinders they
currently dive) and that will allow them to discover if the cylinders they
are using is safe for them. Some may find they need to change cylinders

 What is wrong with suggesting people do realistic self training drills to
find what does and does not work for them??

The next thing I recommended was that divers practice a worse case scenario
rescue in a simulated manner. this included number one allow a diver to
deflate his/her BC and sink give them a slight headstart (practice in 60 to
70 feet of water and start the drill from about 15 feet let the buddy get
about 20 feet below you then go after them)

Catch the buddy to do so you will need to get negative and swim after them .

Once you have caught them inflate your wings to see if you can first stop
there descent. then stabilize the buoyancy with your BC then begin a
controlled ascent using your bc, then on the surface keep both of you afloat
for a reasonable time.

Now try a similar drill with you being negative as as you sink remove your
lift bag, attach your reel and inflate the bag, this will allow you to
evaluate the effectiveness of a lift bag as a reliable backup BC

Again what is wrong in having someone practice these drills to evaluate the
lift of there BC's in emergencies and to verify the effectiveness of a lift
bag as a back up BC??

Repeat using the lift bag as  abuddy rescue device and see how well it
works.

Next do the surface rescue drill I described. If you have taken a recent
IANTD trimix course this is now a required skill.

I really do not see how anyone could object to someone practicing these. for
some of you it may mean a change in cylinders for some a change in wings,
and some of you may opt to go to some type of redundant BC.

I generally witness some BC failure every year most of the time it is due to
faulty maintenance. So far I have not WITNESSED someone getting into a
problem that they have not been able to overcome. The most common failure I
have seen is divers yanking on pull dumps and pulling the inflator hose
lose.In my opinion tech divers should avoid pull dumps, because it is an
additional failure point.

What I recommend to you on the list is what I tell each of my students:
1. Go through the logic of how you configure your equipment
2. List all the advantages and any disadvantages of your equipment
configuration.
Be sure you address each and every part of the configuration. Drill such as
the above will provide insight on the effectiveness of your current
configurations with regard to cylinders and BC's

Once you have done this you will be able to intelligently explain and
understand why you do what you do.

Unfortunately many going into tech diving do a lot of changes in config
based on this is what my last instructor told me to do. or I read this is
the only thing that works and the next instructor may totally change them
out. Those who do the above will know why they configure as they do and will
be more conservative in configurations changes until they determine the
logic behind a change.

 If you read IANTD's new technical Diver encyclopedia there is a lot of
discussion on configuration and a lot of similarity among many of the
authors in how they configure. But each is a well thought out system.

Below is my personal configuration. I have made one recent change and that
is going from a 9 inch inflator hose to a 6 inch one.
Tom Mount’s Configuration

The doubles are manifolded together. If available, an isolator valve is
used.

 The regulators are placed so that all hoses extend vertically downward from
the valves. The long hose is on the right post and is the primary regulator.
This hose is wrapped under the wings and, when using my normal waist light
placement, underneath it, the hose is simply routed behind the wings, across
the body and a ¼ turn around the neck. When diving without a light, the
excess hose is tucked into the waist strap. The short hose is the backup
regulator. A permanently attached surgical loop is attached to the backup
regulator; this goes around the neck of the diver. This second stage should
be right at the base of the neck just below the chin.

 The SPG has a custom length of 24 inches (57.6 cm) and runs down from the
regulator on the left post. It is attached to the left shoulder D-ring.

 The BC inflator hose coming out of the BC (wings) is a custom 9 inch (21.6
cm) hose. The power inflator hose is 15 inches (36 cm) long. This short hose
arrangement is ideal for fine tuning buoyancy without a need to raise the
hose or to use the lower pulldumps on the wings. The power inflator hose is
attached to the left.

 When diving a wet suit I recommend the use a backup BC, although I do not
always do so. On dry suit dives, one set of wings can be used. The dry suit
serving as a backup BC.

The primary light for use in cave or wreck diving is normally waist mounted.
When diving in areas that are narrow, such as some sections of wrecks or
constricted caves, butt mounting is a logical choice. Waist mounting is a
simpler configuration for use in less constricted areas and is ideal for
long hose configuration.


The safety lights are mounted on the shoulder straps with one being placed
on each shoulder strap. This allows ease of access to the lights while
keeping them removed from busy areas and reducing drag.

 Reels as needed (use only what you need) are carried on the waist D- rings
or on a ring attached to the backplate or back D-ring on the crotch strap.
The lift bag is carried by two surgical tubing loops attached to the base of
the backplate.

Stage tank rigging is by having a line around the neck of the cylinder and
to the point on the cylinder that will align the bottom snap with the waist
D-ring. The line is covered with tubing. This can also be with stage straps.

Backplate: I use a stainless steel backplate with a QD on the lower left
shoulder strap. I have a back injury that flares up from time to time and
the TransPac is friendlier on the back on those occasions. I also use a
TransPac when traveling due to its lighter weight and ease of changing from
singles to doubles. Attached to the backplate or TransPac is a continuos
crotch strap that has a loop that goes around the waist strap. The crotch
strap has a DPV ring at the front and a tow ring at the back of the strap.
At the base of the backplate or TransPac a surgical tubing loop is at either
side to allow storage of a lift bag when diving in open water.

 Cutting tools are carried on all dives. A pair of surgical scissors is in a
holster on the waist strap. A small knife is placed on the back of my light
handle for immediate access.

 The cylinders normally used are double 112’s (17L) for cave diving and
double 85’s (13 L) for deep open water and wreck dives. On dives not
requiring larger cylinders, I use either double 45’s (7L) or single
cylinders with dual valve outlets that provide sufficient volume of gas for
the planned dive.

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Wallace <hwallac1@ta*.rr*.co*>
To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Date: Sunday, July 19, 1998 5:00 PM
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