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> OK, butt-head, let me lay it out for you. Aw shit, Jim broke out the stick and stone collection :-) > If you have a second bladder you need an second corrugated hose which > needs a second inflater (failure point) a second LP hose (failure point). > And if you have a stuck inflater or leaky LP hose, how long will it take > you to find it (clusterfuck point). And for those bozos who compensate > for this by not putting a LP hose on the second inflator, I have to laugh > in your face. Suckers! No more failure points here than on a drysuit. So are you saying drysuits are bad too? > I've said it before and I will say it again, there is no advantage in > dual bladders or bondage which make up for the drawbacks of the system. Have often heard many of those who oppose dual-bladders SUPPORT dry suits as "back-up inflation". > If you need a backup buoyancy system it should be a completely separate > setup with no inter-related parts. Ideally it should have it's own > function so you are not dragging around dead weight. This is called a > drysuit. And there we are... the only INTER-RELATED part is the sack which holds both bladders... the bladders are separate, as are the inflators. Gee, kinda like a drysuit only you can't fart into it. > Mike, it's time you come out of the closet, you either are using bondage > or have one for sale to be defending this laughing stock of a POS BC. No Jim, I have simple DR wings. Stop torturing yourself over my motives, they are simple. I am sick of pattern of slamming everything and providing NO good FACTS to back it up. You should be happy, I am giving you the perfect chance to calmly, rationally, FACTUALLY explain why the second bladder in the OMS wings is bad. You have the opportunity to do this without innuendo or name-calling. If someone had done this only once, this thread would not exist. Not the bungees, the subject right now is just the back-up bladder. I'm not arguing FOR the wings... I am arguing AGAINST slamming them without adequately justifying it. No one learns anything that way, except that certain people really really don't like something about product XYZ. The hyperbole has crossed the line on this list, its time we got back to discussing the real merits/demerits of things, not just slamming them b/c its fun and makes us feel good. I only see 2 logical conclusions to this..... 1 - the OMS back-up bladder is equally dangerous BUT equally beneficial as a back-up buoyancy device when compared to a drysuit. 2 - the OMS back-up bladder provides more failure points than a drysuit. Enough to overcome the additional task loading of a drysuit which would couple an inflation loss to thermal protection loss as well. While I'd love to jump in with the lynch-mob, I can't find anything which lets me move from position #1 to position #2. But I'm waiting and listening. Just the facts mam. I'm not saying you're wrong, but you haven't proven (to me and many others) that you are right. Mike -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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