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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:53:19 -0500
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
From: s_lindblom@co*.co* (Steve Lindblom)
Subject: Re: bondage wing challenge was

>Just exactly when did it become your job to decide when we should "discuss"
>something, and when we should not.

Stop playing the straw man game. I never said anything about what we could
discuss here, and I never accused anyone of slamming (to your credit,
though, you resisted the temptation to call me a bungey-loving stroke).

What I did, is continue to marvel at your ability to post long threads of
purely speculative adventuring, with no attempt to ground your musings in
fact, even when the factual information that would make the discussion
relevent and useful is readily available with a little digging. You seem to
think that you can find truth purely on a mental level, with no recourse to
actual facts.

I think this is a legitimate concern on this list, since this penchant of
yours is responsible for a lot of lingering misinformation in the
community.
>
>Since several people on this list DO dive bungees into extremely cold
>water---it is in fact a good question to put out

Absolutely. But not the way you do  - by posting speculation and inviting
others to further speculate based on your ungrounded speculation. That has
no validity, and no usefulness - it's just a self indugent intellectual
game. If anything, the opposite, because frequently, when others here play
your game, after a long thread based on your original conjectures that
conjecture becomes mistaken for fact. A good example being the WPB debacle,
where you posted one premature conclusion and uncomfirmed rumor after
another, until I doubt anyone here has any notion what really happened.

In the case of the bungees, I could understand if you'd just said "I've
heard that bungees lose their elasticity when cold. Is this true?" That
would be a useful attempt to gain information and to apply it to the
discussion at hand. If the answer was convincingly, "they do", then you
could proceed to consider the implications.

But you didn't. You started with that statement, then, with no attempt to
examine its validity or invite others to, instead encouraged them to reach
speculative conclusions based on your original unproven statement. This, at
best, can only result in the creation of misinformation. And it's not like
you haven't done this before - you do it all the time.

BTW, I hung a weight on a bungee, measured the stretch, then stuck it in
the freezer overnight (a tad above 0F) and measured it again. No change.
OK, there's still pressure to consider, but I'll leave that to someone
else.



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