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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:11:28 -0400
To: "Gerald.McDonald@mc*.co*" <Gerald.McDonald@mc*.co*>
From: "J.T. Barker" <captjt@mi*.co*>
Subject: Re: FW: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Capt. Gerry
This is one post that I think most(if not all)Captains will agree with,also
I would like to add when you leave the boat you are on your own.But as
being divers ourself we cannot allow a person to leave the boat unless we
beleive he can do the dive.This doesnot mean we are scuba/tech police.It is
up to the diver to get the training and skills before he gets to us or be
under instructor care.There are always divers that seem to slip through the
cracks and gets a card that he should not have,this makes our job even
harder.That card and false log book are sometimes all we have to go by.

The bottom line is, our job is to get a diver to and from the dive site and
should a diver injure theirself we are trained in first aid,cpr,and should
be trained in Oxygen first aid for dive accidents.
Capt.J.T.


At 09:56 AM 7/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>All,
>
>Just wanted to add to the flow from a Captain's view.
>
>I agree totally with the opinion that the boat is a taxi to get you out and 
>back.  Of course we have the responsibility of getting you out and back 
>alive and safe and don't take that responsibility lightly.
>
>Many...although now days fewer...dive boat captains are not even divers and 
>the fact that they are carrying passengers that are planning to jump ship, 
>play a sometimes dangerous game then hopefully return safely should not 
>automatically give them the responsibility of a paramedic or EMT.  Same as 
>a Pilot who happens to take sky divers up for their fun.  But as most 
>captains including myself are divers ( for 17 years) We ( I ) do feel more 
>responsible for the safety of the charter and will do what ever humanly 
>possible assist in an emergency.
>
>I didn't read the original mail that started this "conversation" but only 
>wanted to express my thoughts above and state that as an avid NE wreck 
>diver myself I take whole responsibility in my safety when diving and if I 
>croak, I don't want my wife trying to place the blame on anyone else but me 
>and try suing some poor slob trying to hack out a livin' running a dive 
>boat.
>
>
>Thanks,  Dive Safely !!!
>
>Capt. Gerry McDonald
>"To Dive For" Dive Charters
>Ocean City Md.
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:	Mike Zimmerman [SMTP:zimmmt@au*.al*.co*]
>Sent:	Thursday, July 09, 1998 1:13 PM
>To:	Jim Cobb
>Cc:	zimmmt@au*.al*.co*; Raimo4252@ao*.co*; techdiver@aquanaut.com
>Subject:	Re: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
>
>> Hey Mike this taxi idea of yours works great until the family of the
>> deceased sues the hell out of the dive boat.
>
>Jim,
>
>that's because you forgot to really open your mind all the way :-)
>
>Who sues the bus that takes you to the ski slope?  No one.  why
>not?  No one expects the ski bus to keep you safe.  Stop expecting
>the dive boat to.
>
>When you get called to tetify as an expert witness by that
>family, you can look 'em straight in the eye and say, no
>there was no duty breached by the dive boat... they had no
>duty to protect, only to taxi.  No breach of duty.  No case.
>
>So anyway you are right, partially.  You can't do this half-way.
>There is no half-pregnant.
>
>either dive boats have responsiblity for us or they don't.
>I pity them if they do.  And I pity us as we suffer while
>they have to cover their butts.
>
>Mike
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