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Date: Sun, 5 Jul 1998 19:08:56 +1000
To: "Thomas A. Easop" <tomeasop@mi*.co*>
From: billyw <bdi@wh*.ne*>
Subject: Re: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
Cc: kirvine@sa*.ne*, Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
At 07:14 PM 4/07/1998 -0400, Thomas A. Easop wrote:

>I don't wine and I'm not an instructor. Never have been. 
>You seem to be the adamant one who can't follow what it is 
>I'm saying.

Thomas, I too, am having difficulty following what it is you
are saying. When I first read your "it's all the students' fault"
post, I honestly thought you were taking the piss out of that
particular type of agency instructor who's first reaction when 
the shit hits the fan is to blame the student and run like a 
roach.

Now it seems you are serious. You really believe students are
responsible for the misfortune visited on them by incompetent
instructors and cawsh-happy agencies. Would you mind, therefore,
explaining to me the process by which you work out that incidents 
involving the lethal bondage wing, steel cylinder and wetsuit 
combination are the students' fault? As you put it:- "the 
students are at fault. The students who take these classes 
are adult divers, presumably with experience."

Could you tell me how they were to forsee the danger of 
this equipment combination when: 
                      a) their instructors insist it is 
the appropriate equipment for the depth and the locality.
                      b) the technical agency condones 
the use of this gear configuration.
                      c) its danger only manifests on dives 
to depths beyond their current experience levels.
                      d) the instructors not only pushed
this equipment at retail level, they argued vigorously 
against those who warned against its use, maligned their 
motives and impugned their characters.

I am also having difficulty with another of your gleaming
insights into the vagaries of human nature. You wrote:

>> > If a competent tech student is instructed to dive in a manner that
>> > they feel is dangerous (too deep/too heavy/too soon) and ignore all their
>> > experience and common sense, they have no one to blame except themselves.

The problem I'm having here is I can't work out whether 
you're functionally illiterate or terminally stupid.

rgrds   billyw


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