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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 05:56:07 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: Paul Larrett <Paul_Larrett_at_LUC@co*.co*.uk*>
CC: techdive@ea*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
Paul , I am not involved in training other than as a guest lecturer on a
very few topics, and I do that for any and all . I have done it for
Mount's classes, Errol's, and others. You are off base here. I have
trained WKPP divers, but only in what we do -they already were long ago
"trained". This is not my area. 

What is my area is the far reaches of this kind of diving. Since my team
and I seem to be able to do that safely, what is wrong with everyone
else? I think that has an obvious answer.

Paul Larrett wrote:
> 
>      Katherine,
> 
>      You wrote <We can then update the scorecard as to what agency is in
>      the lead>.
> 
>      The concept of an agency scoring system based on the number of
>      fatalities, or lack of them, feels wrong somehow.
> 
>      Such "one-up-man-ship" suggests insecurity and a need to "prove"
>      oneself.
> 
>      I take no sides in this "war" of technical agencies, in my experience
>      it is the quality of the individual (diver and instructor) that
>      counts. I do not condone a bad training system and if one of the
>      agencies has serious flaws they should be corrected asap.
> 
>      By <in the lead>, what did you mean? What's the race?
> 
>      A training system based on excellence, using only the best instructors
>      teaching only the best students (by recommendation) is the way
>      forward. Let's hope G.U.E. fulfils this.
> 
>      Paul Larrett
> 
> ______________________________ Reply Separator
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> Subject: Re: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
> Author:  techdive@ea*.ne* at Internet
> Date:    02/07/98 20:13
> 
> Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
> >
> > Been a good week : one rebreather death, one NE wreck death, and one
> > South Africa "tech" death. Maybe we can get the details on these in the
> > hope that they do not get immediately repeated.
> >
> >   We can then update the scorecard as to what agency is in the lead,
> > which rebreather has the higest body count, and what know-it-all method
> > of strokery was used to "exucute" these dives.
> >
> >   I can not believe the insurance companies are stupid enough to let the
> > same idiots put them at the same risk over and over and over. Let's talk
> > about these accidents -
> >
> 
>    Katherine,  why is it you think that any agency is at falt? Had you
> looked at the possibility that any of these divers maybe steped outside
> of the boundries that were taught to them. You may be jumping the gun
> alittle early.    John
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