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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 1998 06:08:10 -0400
From: "Katherine V. Irvine" <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: techdive@ea*.ne*
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: BODY COUNT - SCORE CARD TO FOLLOW
John, I do not know these situations. Here is what I do know: having
read several police reports, looked for bodies, and recently fished one
out, I see certain obvious problems. Sticking strictly to that, let's
focus on what we have for sure. Steel tanks with a wetsuit, bondage
wings, and deep water. I walked into a dive shop in Florida the other
day and saw two of the most horrendous stroke rigs I have ever seen ,
and was told it was students taking a mix class. I now find out that the
agencies are FORBIDDING the correct tanks for wetsuit ocean diving, and
are in fact REQUIRING steel tanks ,  bondage  wings, and host of items
and prceedures that I myself would not allow. 

You tell me: if at least two of those dead people recently had weighting
and buoyancy problems, who is at fault? Who is at fault if this
ridiculous combination continues to be ENFORCED , even after the recent
spate of accidents. More interesting to me is "who is the idiot
insurance company that continues to cover this"?

The subject of what these people are trying to achieve by doing this is
a whole different issue, and is the function of an epidemic of stupidity
in dive instruction and a serious mismotivation and misuse of the sport.
Bungee jumping would be safer . New Jersey has some great jumps, maybe
the agencies should look into doing that indstead.

My brother showed me a few that are really outrageous - by the way, he
will no longer dive after all of the deaths, neither will my kids.

John Walker wrote:
> 
> Katherine V. Irvine wrote:
> >
> > Been a good week : one rebreather death, one NE wreck death, and one
> > South Africa "tech" death. Maybe we can get the details on these in the
> > hope that they do not get immediately repeated.
> >
> >   We can then update the scorecard as to what agency is in the lead,
> > which rebreather has the higest body count, and what know-it-all method
> > of strokery was used to "exucute" these dives.
> >
> >   I can not believe the insurance companies are stupid enough to let the
> > same idiots put them at the same risk over and over and over. Let's talk
> > about these accidents -
> >
> 
>    Katherine,  why is it you think that any agency is at falt? Had you
> looked at the possibility that any of these divers maybe steped outside
> of the boundries that were taught to them. You may be jumping the gun
> alittle early.    John


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