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Trout said: >and your point is...? > >For those who are not familiar with REAL diving at Wakulla, helium based >gas mixtures and multiple deco mixes are required and, therefore, 3 dollar >dive shop Navy dive tables would, of course, not be appropriate there. Whoa, man, you're way too sharp fer me. I tried to slip that one past, but your penetrating insight caught it. Well done. You must have missed the winking "emoticon" at the end of my post, though, used to indicate that the author is kidding, cajoling, writing in jest, with humor, having fun -- and included for those who have trouble detecting same. My post had multiple references to numeris diving subjects that are constantly cropping up in list discussions: "I ran the Navy Tables"? "Running" a set of Navy Tables -- which consists of moving your finger down a column and across a line. Get it? How about "my 3 dollar dive shop Navy Tables"? Cheaper than a PC, available everywhere. Get it? "which have been dived at Wakulla, BTW." Like those tanks and watches that were being marketed a while back as a piece of history -- as if diving something at Wakulla made it more than a tank or a watch -- or a Navy Table. Get it? "(they give min. and sec. -- *real* precise these)" As if you could calculate deco *to the second.* Get it? "Not conservative enough to get your wife to obey orders," "Conservative" here referring to deco planning, while at the same time alluding to the recent attempt by medieval, religio-political, insecure-male conservatives who want to be able to control women. Get it? "but then that's another kind of diving." An allusion with a mild sexual reference...... oh never mind. "Does get you out of the water as fast as a Navy SEAL." Hey, you too can be bad as a Navy SEAL by using the old Navy Tables. Get it? In a later post a diver mentioned his own practical use of "raw beuhlman". Ring any bells? "Could've used a better font (bigger), but what the hey." I've got failing visual acuity (eyesight). Get it? "No batteries and electrical circuits -- can't get much more hogarthian than that." An another atttribute of Navy Tables -- for the "I'm more hogarthian than you" crowd. Get it? "Didn't have to download anything," Easier, faster than the net. Get it? "pay anything to Bill Gates," Gates don't get no part of Navy Tables -- yet. Get it? "translate anything," What you see is what you get. Get it? "and it won't go belly up when lightning takes out the juice" No elec. required -- not infrastructure dependent. Get it? "or the millenium rolls around." When all the hard core computerized deco hackers' (whom I respect, enjoy, and continually learn from) computers poot because of the millenium bug, the Navy Tables will still work. Get it? "For a "fudge factor" you can dip the tables in chocolate and munch during deco........" I give up. Nothing malicious, no attacks or flames, but bearing some opinion, and hopefully gently thought-provoking. I apologize that you were overly task-loaded by it. Now that I've helped you get thru the complexities of my post, I have a few questions about yours. You said: >For those who are not familiar with REAL diving at Wakulla, You seem to be saying that some dives at Wakulla are real -- and some are less real. So you think a person can't embolize, get bent, or killed on almost any dive? Say, who are your diving mentors/instructors? They may have been hiding something from you or neglected to point out a couple things you're not aware of. Check with them. In your mind, some cave dives are "real" and others are not? If so, and I were a mentor or dive buddy of yours -- and esp. since you're "moving up" -- I'd want to know that you think this way. If air dives at Wakulla or anywhere else are not "real" dives -- or if, as you say, no "real" dives can be done at Wakulla simply using air and the Navy Tables for deco planning -- then you missed the fact that many kinds of useful support dives, on air and requiring deco, can be done in the cavern and bowl. And that Navy Tables are adequate for safe deco on those dives. Regardless, I'm sure you didn't intend to demean the divers, or diminish their dives and their efforts, who have so faithfully assisted your dives. Then you said: >Bounce dives to look at the bones 10 years ago really doesn't count, now >does it? Depends on your value system. Yours and mine are different. Every dive I make "counts" -- to me. They are all made for my own enjoyment and satisfaction, rather than to prove something to someone else. OTOH, the attitude conveyed in your posts reveals your need to make the kind of dives that will "count" and are "real" in your value system: deep, long, and requiring tri-mix or a rebreather perhaps? Go for it. I sincerely hope you live long enough to become mature enough to re-evaluate those goals and motivations. Good luck! Christopher A. Brown The Technical Diving Video Library http://www.aulinc.com/video.htm ameruwlite@ao*.co*, Fax: 352.669.1256, or Phone: 352.669.5483 Life is short -- this is not a rehearsal. -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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