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From: Mike Wells <mike.wells@cm*.co*>
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 98 23:40:37 -0700
To: "Todd Leonard" <toddl@in*.co*>, <cobber@ci*.co*>
Subject: Re: Zip ties
cc: "Techdiver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>


Todd wrote:

>Jim, if you use Liquid Nails to attch the mouthpiece, how do you attach 
>the neck strap (shock cord or surgical tubing) to the backup reg?
>
>I'm guessing you must insert the mouthpiece into a loop in the shock 
>cord, which allows the reg to be pulled free.  Everyone I've ever seen 
>using this approach formed the loop with... you guessed it, a pair of 
>zip ties.  It could be done with knots, I suspect, but regardless I 
>don't think it's the best approach.  I don't want the regulator going 
>anywhere without permission, and a single zip tie securing a permanent 
>neckstrap is the best way to do that that I know of.  They don't 
>exhibit the twist-away weakness in this context.
>
>- Todd


I don't know how everyone else attaches theirs, but I used a bowline knot 
to form a loop the size I need in each end of the surgical tubing, and 
then stretch each end over the mouthpiece.  In my mind, a zip tie is just 
another snagging point and failure point (also not very comfy if it gets 
up against your lips).  If you can do it without one, WHY USE IT?  IF YOU 
DON'T NEED IT, LEAVE IT.  A bowline knot is the most secure, safe, strong 
knot to use for forming a loop in the end of a line.  If you learn this 
knot you will use it for many things through life from your dive gear, to 
your boat, to tying up strokes (or maybe even your other half).  If you 
go to your local library and check out a book of knots in the mariners 
section, you can learn a few knots that will be very useful (bowline, 
running bowline, butterfly or lineman's knot, barrel, fisherman's, 
truckers hitch, sheet bend, and rolling hitch.  These are the knots I 
think of off hand that I use a lot.  People use other fasteners when they 
could be using a knot to do the same thing.  Give a knot a try next time 
before putting some *DEVICE* to work to do the same thing.

Later,
Mike W.

PS - When you're reading a knot book, see what they say about the famous 

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