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Ian M. Irvine wrote:
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> John, thanks for putting this out - and making my point. You really do
> not understand, do you? The guy took a student out for a 300 foot dive
> and let her die. Good job. The many reasons , or potential reasons ,
> are all there for everyone to see - take your pick.
Yes Ian, I do understand that there was a tragic diving accident as
there are so, to often. I just don't know if I fully understand were you
guys are comming from all the time. I do in fact listen to many of the
WKPP ideas and do as well incorporate many of them in my own diving as
well as my intsructions. But do not yet feel that all of these ideas fit
into all types of dives. Please help me see the way. Quit often it seems
to me as well as many others I have heard from that you guys are allways
crying and starving for attention. I would imagin if you guys presented
your selves differently more folks would pay attention
> The worst is the bottle marking and the use of "position" as
> identification. She breathed the wrong gas. Our way is the correct way,
> yours is wrong, ESPECIALLY in teaching, and I have the body recovery to
> prove it.
OK, so you have a couple bodies recovered. Why would wearing your
bottles on one side make it safer in a deep-gas-ocean dive. I know that
IANTD does promote marking the bottles with PO2, MOD, ect.. In fact I do
teach according to agency standards. That covers my ass, but neither of
these ways I would call mine. They are options.
> When you have the experience I have ( see my other post on the dive I
> did two days ago) , you can ask me who trained and certified me. It sure
> as hell was not your organization. It was me myself.
Nice that you were abile to train your self! Are you a certified
diver from any organization. Your experiences are great but why would I
have to be as experienced as you to ask you what organization trained
you? I've been teaching for 15 years with out a single accident and I
believe thats a pretty good record considering the variaty of diving
activities in which I teach as well as never having an accident while
diving at all.
> While some of our guys are instructors, they do not teach this crap, and
> we have made it clear to Mount how we do teach what we teach. Ask them,
> and by the way, the reason we had to start a new agency was becuase of
> the bull like this, and the fact that guys like you , who by your own
> words have no working understranding of what we do , are effectively on
> a level - playing field with us under the IANTD / TDI / ANDI or whatever
> banner - people want more than that, and we provide it.
Why is it that you have to make anything clear to Mount. Is it the
fact that you really do respect him? As for me you don't even know me.
And why is an exploration team like yours obligated to train anyone. As
in recreational scuba, there is basic as well as advanced courses. Not
everyone is ready for,as you put it, MORE. Personally I am and do still
train under a variety of others and would consider taking some MORE
training from some of your people. But with the attitude that you
present, no body except standing WKPP members are worthy of such
training. Would this be the case?
> I do teach, I just do not certify. How's that?
Do you have any official teaching credentials of any type?
John Walker
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