Tom, Derrek is just a symptom of a much bigger problem. Who taught him
this crap?

Tom Mount wrote:
> 
> Dan
> On the hydro as stated the instructor in charge was Jim Mims not Derrick .
> Can you read Jim Mims was the instructor responsible for the students on the
> dive although it was Derricks course--  Read the post.
> 
> On the OW dives these were not IANTD courses and they were Dan Mitchell's
> students and Dan was the PDIC instructor in charge of that PDIC course
> 
> Below is a copy straight from our QA manual and it is being followed to the
> T with all the dots periods and detail imaginable
> 
> I have just sent Carl a unsubscribe post as I will be out of town teaching a
> cave course so will not be able to respond to whatever you post nor do I
> intend to respond on this issue anymore.
> 
> For those interested IANTD is following its detailed QA procedure spelled
> out. This procedure was developed to ensure a fair decision on behalf of all
> parties in the event of situations such as this one.
> 
> Direct from the IANTD QA manual this has all been completed and the package
> is being sent to the BOA-QA board they have all the required info and a lot
> of it is much different than reported on this forum not better or worse but
> different. The BOA will have sufficient data to make a just decision we have
> even sent  all of George's and Dans comments along with the package so
> nothing is hidden distorted or left out
> 
> I do not endorse or condemn Derrick that is the decision of the BOA QA board
> not mine and not Dans or George's on behalf of IANTD
> 
> Dan if you want to punch Derrick out that is your decision,
> 
> On all OW IANTD training dives with Derricks courses another instructor will
> be in chargé until the investigation is complete, just as it was on the
> Hydro with Jim Mims being in charge and yes Derrick can dive with them in
> fact as they are his students most will feel more comfortable with him along
> even though the other instructor is in charge as they know him and have
> already been trained up to this point by him. So his presence in the water
> is for a purpose even if he is not in charge of the dive. It also provides
> the instructor in charge a chance to evaluate the dive planning etc pre and
> post dive. We feel it is a good process
> Tom
> .
> IANTD Process When a Diving Fatality Occurs During Training
> 
> IANTD will immediately contact the Instructor and obtain an Incident Report.
> This will be followed up by a more comprehensive report, which includes
> obtaining all information pertinent to the accident, statements from
>  Students
>  Other divers on the dive
>  A QA form being sent to all former students of the instructor.
>  Determinations by the ME(Medical Examiner),if available
>  Reports form the recovery team,
>  Reports from the diving vessel
>  Review of the training program conducted to the date of the accident,
>  Statements from other sources who are aware of the diving instructor and
> his practices
>  Statements from others who are familiar with the capabilities of the
> accident victim
> These include people who have dived with or observed the instructor and
> student during training.
> Once all this information is compiled the data is sent to a QA board
> consisting of members of the IANTD international BOA. Most of these people
> will not even know a given instructor and will be totally impartial in
> reviewing all of the data.
> First immediate step: Limited teaching status
> 1. The instructor must have another instructor present during all OW or
> Overhead environment dives. The instructor may conduct all lectures and
> confined water sessions without a second instructor present
> Based on the BOA determinations one of the following will take place. These
> actions are for the overall protection of the instructor; the public and
> IANTD while ensuring fair and just due process.
> Events following an investigation
> 1. If it is found that the instructor is not at fault in the accident in any
> way whatsoever then the limited teaching status will be removed and the
> instructor will go back on normal teaching status.
> 2. If the BOA determines that the events are questionable but not directly
> controllable or preventable by the instructor The instructor will be placed
> on probational or restricted statues and the BOA will spell out specific
> procedures to be adhered to in order to be reinstated to normal teaching
> status.
> 
> 3. If the BOA finds that the instructor did not act responsibility the
> instructor may be suspended with the ability to request an appeal to the
> BOA. A suspended instructor may or may not be given a provision for
> reinstatement following one year of suspension again as determined by the
> BOA based on its finding of all the facts.
> 4. The BOA may find cause for expulsion from instructor and membership
> status within IANTD
> 
> ---


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