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I personally would be a little scared diving with someone that must boast about how tough they are in the gym on a computer (yes, Im talking about you Dan, inviting everyone for a sparing match). Ok Dan, lets say you beat who ever in a sparing match, what does that prove? Lets say they beat you, what does that prove? Does it prove their ideas are right? There are greater strenghts then physical. It seems its alot harder for some people to control their mental state than it is to control their physical in this mailing list. Would you want to dive with someone with that little contol? Usually tough guys don't take up karate anyways, it seems to attract the weak who want to be strong. And anyone who knows alot about true fighting knows that someone with the mentality and physical ability of Mike Tyson is going to whip any 10001 degree black belts butt :) I think who ever runs this list needs to kick off people that insult other people for a few days everytime they do it. This list is about as bad as the usenet groups at times. I also think anyone that goes below 130 feet should understand the risks themselves and do their own research before ever going down with an instructor. I see everyone play macho man every time someone dies, and people yell and scream, fix this, fix that. Fact of the matter is, alot of this is very dangerous stuff we all do. And I think we need to quit blaming this person and that person. One person is to blame, and that is the person that dies! It is their FULL responsibility to research something as much as they can, and understand the risks before they do something. Accept responsibility for yourself, its that simple. Some of this stuff is dangerous, and you could die. What more do you need to understand? Where did the concept of personal responsibility go? And for someone to say another person reacted wrong, by not trying to go down and save a person, unless you were in that persons flippers you don't know what really happened. And you can't teach someone to risk their life for another (who by their own free will took on a semi dangerous task to begin with). I really don't think you can teach compassion in a class. And I don't think you could pay me enough to have the responsibility to risk my life for another person that I don't know personally. Does that make me a bad person? Well, I also have people I have to care about above water also. Many in fact, is it not greedy to risk my life, and threaten all my relatives with a loss if I would die trying to rescue someone? I've been in life and death situations before, and I was amazed, I didn't have no idea how I would react till I experienced it. Dan, try using your brain more, and less emotions when you think. Hoka --- Free and Private email from Supernews(TM) <http://www.supernews.com> -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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