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Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 18:57:26 -0700
From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
Organization: TechDive
To: Dan Volker <dlv@ga*.ne*>
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Does IANTD believe an instructor should NOT pursue a sinking student?
Dan Volker wrote:

>  Tom,
> I have just heard from Alan Pelstring----the dead girl's boyfriend, that
> Derick McNulty is still teaching, and that he had students over the >weekend.
 
   Dan, you seem to post a rather large amount of hear-say on this
list.       Are you sure everything that you are spouting off about is
factual?
 
> Tom, is it IANTD  "Standard Operating Procedure",  for instructors to " >NOT
PURSUE" , a sinking student? Derick has now stated to the investigators >that
he felt his life would be in jeopardy if he was to attempt to  descend >after
Jane. As you know, this was with less than 13 minutes bottom time , >and with
close to 2/3  of his  back gas left.  So again, "Should an IANTD >instructor,
who is "buddied" to his student,  NOT PURSUE this student,  >should the student
begin  a descent which clearly represented the student  >was in an emergency
situation" ????

   Dan, curious to know if you were there wene this statment was given
to    the investigators.  If not, how did you here this?

> Is it IANTD policy to tell a class of your students, that it is, "everyman
> for himself, and if you have an emergency, your on your own, because if I
> have to help you, it could jeopardize my own life"...????

   WOW again. did Darick really tell his class that?

> Please  Tom, What is your SOP in these matters. And if you would "like" to
>call Derrick negligent in his actions, it would certainly go a long way
>toward convincing a great many people on this list, that you actually care
>more about human life, than about protecting a potentially dangerous IANTD
>instructor. Don't think for a second that huge numbers of divers are not
>questioning Tom Mount's ethics  right now.....
 
   More hear say/speaking for others.  Now, Now.

>No one has heard you condemn  Derrick,  for actions which are clear to
>everyone else on this list, as  negligent.

   SPEAK FOR YOUR SELF DAN! I,m on the list and not much more is clear
to me    except for the fact that you are accusing people of murder for
a accident    that took place while diving. By the way, is this an
attempt for you to     promote GUE, by hammering the rest of the
technical agenies that may be     someday be competition?    HMMMMMM. 
If so, than I've got some GUE for      you.

> If you want to be the only one who wants to stand there and say that >Derrick
was performing his duty properly, I think most will agree that this >position
by you will tell the world a great deal about IANTD----and they >won't like
what they just heard.

   Jesus Christ!  Now your speaking for the whole world.

> And as Alan Pelstring just told me that Derrick has had a grand total of 9
> months from being an open water diver, to becoming an instructor 
>trainer---you might want to comment as to whether this is true---and if so,
> HOW is it possible for IANTD to crank out an instructor trainer so >fast????

   And what organization is it that made Darek an open water instructor
with    less than a year or experience. Sounds like more political(BRAVO
SIERRA)    to me.

>So far you have ignored my posts to you----I'll assume you did not like my
>tone, so you chose not to answer me.

   Can't say I blame him personally.
 
> Sorry Tom, I felt this girl was murdered by Derrick.

   Dan, just what is your interpitation of murder? As I see it, it would
be    the unlawful premeditated killing of a human being.  Seems to me
that       both Tom and Derrick could have a case against you for
defemation of        charactor.

> This belief would make most people with any shred of moral decency, pretty
> upset.

  As it makes me upset you are such a little tatal tailing baby.

>  Would I have been  right to call you an accomplice to this murder ----
> probably this would have been an unfair characterization of you,
> particularly since I know that if you had been the instructor, you would
> have gone down after her, and you would have saved Jane's life. George
> Believes this, as to Robert, Bill, Errol  and myself.  So we know how the
> top guy at IANTD would have handled this  situation.  We know how a 9   >
month IANTD wonder named Derrick handled this.  There is NO continuity    >
here.

   Were is your individuality,DAN. Is that a bad word with you. 

> Either he teaches like you , or he doesn't, and it looks to us like he > does
NOT.  So how about admitting that Derrick did not perform his job the > way an
IANTD instructor is supposed to. How about becoming part of a > solution here,
by preventing more students from death, at the hands of an > instructor who is
incapable of acting as you would require him to act.

   Again, what about some individuality?  Often that brings great things
to    the chalkboard.  Please explain to me the down side of it.

> Show me you have the balls to tell the truth here----or has martial arts
> training to "5th dan" only taught you how to " run and hide today--live   >
and run another day ( the credo Derrick obviously goes by, but hopefully  > you
do not...).

  I also feel Tom is showing me a lot of mature control right now by not
kicking your ass.  How much instructional scuba have you done Dan.  By
that I meam teaching scuba?  All this verbal diarrhea sound to me to be
a bunch of negitive hype towards IANTD in order to open the doors for JJ
new and upcomming organization.  I don't think GUE needs to start out by
bashing everyone else in order to make your selves look superior.  In my
opinion IANTD is the finest technical organization there is and it looks
like they will continue to stay that way for a long time.

      Sincerly, John Walker 
   (someone tired of DANS shit)

   
 
 
 

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