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Dan Volker wrote: > I think the real point is being avoided so far in this discussion..... The > real issue is, hundreds, if not thousands of students, have been trained > with catastrophically incorrect technical diving procedures... Dan, why not take it a step further? The instructors who are teaching these "catastrophically incorrect procedures" think that they are teaching the right thing. Who taught them? Put the blame where the blame belongs, on the Instructor trainers, and on the agencies for having to lax of standards. I do not know enough about the situation that started of this topic, so I won't comment on it. However, in my case, the instructor who was going to teach my trimix course was following every standard. He was still unsafe. The first clue was his bragging about 90m air dives, when he was a trimix instructor. There were many others, including the refusal to do deep stops, and the refusal to use pure O2, because both were "unsafe" according to him. But, he was following standards. He was doing as he was taught. > The responsibility CAN NOT lie on the student, it MUST lie on the negligent > instructors, and on the weak and narrow shoulders of Tom Mount, who should > know better, Once again, I don't think anybody is claiming that the "responsibility" (in a legal sense of the term) sshould lie on the student at all. However, the last and final authority on what equipment I use, what profile I dive, and if I dive or not, is ME, and only ME. Even in a classroom, I will not give up that right. When I am teaching courses, I do not expect my students to give up that right either, and I tell them that. However, as an instructor, I am still leagally responsible for my students. In a trimix course, I expect the same. > but who prefers to believe his own hype over the much safer > procedures George Irvine, Bill Mee, and Robert Carmichael have been trying > to instill in him over the last few years--- but to no avail. That is one thing that has always annoyed me about George. His ranting doesn't bother me at all. But, what does, is that, he talks alot about what is the right way of doing things, but vary rarely gives reasons. And if you ask why, the answer almost always comes in two forms, 1) you are an idiot and 2) because it works, and look at how much we have accomplished. None of it says _why_. I'm not saying that he is incorrect at all, just that I would like to know why, what he says is correct, if it is. But, this is off topic... Regards, Andrew Drapp -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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