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Date: Wed, 06 May 1998 16:57:00 -0400
From: katherine Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: DIR
To: Tom Mount <TOM.MOUNT@wo*.at*.ne*>
CC: cavers@ca*.co*, techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: Re: IANTD criticzing teh WKPP in Sun Sentinel
Tom, you can yip yap all you want - we just pulled an IANTD student off
the bottom , DEAD. End of story. Do something about it.


Tom Mount wrote:
> 
> To George
> First of all IANTD has not made any statements about WKPP in any medium. To
> my knowledge there is no Rivalry between IANTD and WKPP, why would there be
> we are a training agency WKPP is an exploration team?
> 
> Derrick apparently has said something about you or WKPP that is based on his
> opinion. Derrick has a right to his opinion, and based on comments about him
> by George and others  I imagines he feels he has a good reason for speaking
> out but he  is not a spokesman for IANTD.
> 
> Now as you know I do not have the liberty of discussing this accident on a
> public forum.
> 
> I will explain that IANTD does have stringent standards to become an
> instructor at any level. For those of you wishing to check these standards
> you may do so at the IANTD web site
> 
>  http//www.IANTD.com
> 
> The same standards spell out the requirements for various diver levels;
> quite often these courses are taught as combination programs as allowed in
> the standards provided the diver has met all the qualifications.
> If you compare these standards from basic OW to Trimix diver you will
> discover they are about the most demanding and rigid standards to be found.
> 
> I and IANTD have spent countless hours developing programs to make diving
> safer. These programs are always evolving and developing. Our total
> concentration is on dive safety and the standards we have do reflect that.
> 
> IANTD also has a quality control program. Within this program there are
> mechanisms for dealing with standards violations, ethics violations and
> accidents. Most of these are an automatic response and in the event of
> diving accidents begin with a stated procedure from the IANTD QA manual and
> a comprehensive investigation.
> This includes obtaining all information pertinent to the accident,
> statements from
>  Students
>  Other divers on the dive
>  A QA form being sent to all former students of the instructor.
>  Determinations by the ME,
>  Reports form the recovery team,
>  Reports from the diving vessel
>  Review of the training program conducted to the date of the accident,
>  Statements from other sources who are aware of the diving instructor and
> his/her practices
>  Statements from others who are familiar with the capabilities of the
> accident victim
> 
> These include people who have dived with or observed the instructor and
> student during training.
> 
> Once all this information is compiled the data is sent to a QA board
> consisting of members of the IANTD international BOA. Most of these people
> will not even know a given instructor and will be totally impartial in
> reviewing all of the data.
> 
> Based on their(BOA) determinations one of the following will take place.
> These actions are for the overall protection of the instructor; the public
> and IANTD while ensuring fair and just due process will evolve:
> 
> First immediate step: Limited teaching status (the instructor is allowed to
> teach with another instructor while under investigation).
> Events following an investigation
> 
> 1. If it is found that the instructor is not at fault in the accident in any
> way whatsoever then the limited teaching status will be removed and the
> instructor will go back on normal teaching status.
> Note! Most agencies simply send out a letter to the instructor informing
> them that the accident is under investigation and take no additional action
> at that time. Again IANTD has a more stringent program
> 
> 2. If the BOA determines that the events are questionable but not directly
> controllable or preventable by the instructor The instructor will be placed
> on provisional or restricted statues and the BOA will spell out specific
> procedures to be adhered to in order to be reinstated to normal teaching
> status.
> 
> 3. If the BOA finds that the instructor did not act responsibility the
> instructor may be suspended with the ability to request an appeal to the
> BOA. A suspended instructor may or may not be given a provision for
> reinstatement following one year of suspension again as determined by the
> BOA based on its finding of all the facts.
> 
> 4. The BOA may find cause for expulsion from instructor and membership
> status within IANTD
> 
> This is all I can comment on and it is the procedures IANTD follows in this
> type of event as spelled out in our QA manual.
> 
> At least all of you now know the actions IANTD takes when there is an
> accident . These procedures were developed by numerous members of IANTD
> internationally and within the legal constraints recommended by our counsel.
> Again we believe they are stricter than other agencies in recreational and
> technical diving and at the same time that they will provide a more factual
> review of an accident, possible means of preventing future accidents and
> will be fair to all parties involved.
> 
> The decision to do any of the above will be that of due process by impartial
> peers.
> Tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: katherine Irvine <kirvine@sa*.ne*>
> To: cavers@ca*.co* <cavers@ca*.co*>
> Cc: techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 9:02 PM
> Subject: IANTD criticzing teh WKPP in Sun Sentinel
> 
> >Get a load of this: after I went out and recovered the body of a girl
> >killed during an IANTD trimix class run by Derek McNulty off of the Reef
> >Cat, Mc Nulty gets in the Sun Sentinel and CRITICIZES the WKPP,saying
> >there is a "rivalry" between the WKPP and IANTD, and that the WKPP
> >methods are "unorthodox".
> >
> >  Who is this comeplete nobody stroke to be saying something like this
> >after he just killed a student and WKPP had to do the recovery?
> >
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