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Subject: Re: Just when you thought
Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 20:00:56 -0400
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "Tech Diver" <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
It still sucks.

 Jim

On 5/2/98 1:59 PM Jan M. Troup wrote:

>Dear Divers:
>
>I  just was made aware of this mail list and would like to respond to some
>of the questions/comments that have been made.  First of all, the X-tra
>System is intended for the recreational diver who would like to have a pony
>bottle backup system.  Diving test and the calculations show that 6 cu ft.
>is only enough air for a safe assent from about 100 ft.  13 cu ft. (which is
>offered along with 19 and 30 cu ft cylinders) would address deeper diving
>situations or specialty dives.  The X-tra system can be used like any other
>pony bottle if desired with the main advantage in this case being an easy
>filling system and a low profile combination valve/1st stage regulator.  In
>this situation, two Scubapro high pressure disconnects are used on each end
>of the fill line and the X-tra system is detached from the main system.
>This is how I expect the larger cylinders (19 and 30 cu ft) two be used for
>cave divers and other specialty divers.
>
>The standard (recreational) application for X-tra is to leave the high
>pressure transfer line hooked up all of the time.  This has many advantages
>and one potential disadvantage.  If any thing happens with a diver's primary
>system or any of the high pressure lines,  X-tra is isolated and supplies a
>bailout supply.  The transfer line insures that X-tra is topped off on
>repetitive dives and provides that the entire air supply is available in the
>event another diver needs your safe second.  By attaching X-tra to the power
>inflator, the diver knows that the pony bottle regulator is always working
>(auto-checking) and air is available.  No more pony bottles that have leaked
>down
>or had a regulator full of sand without the diver knowing.
>
>The bad part of having a transfer line is that if something happens to cause
>X-tra to free flow or leak, then the total air supply could be
>lost.  During recreational diving situations, a diver is likely to notice an
>unstoppable massive leak or a free flow and should start an ascent
>immediately.  The good news is that no matter what happens with  the X-tra
>system the
>maximum air loss rate is the same as the fill rate of about 6 cu ft. per
>minute or about 250 psi of an 80 cu ft. cylinder per minute, and most divers
>could deal with this situation by making a controlled ascent.
>
>The X-tra system can give redundancy without complexity. If a diver uses an
>Air2 or other combination safe second/power inflator then the redundant
>system has only one hose into the pony bottle and one hose out. Only one low
>pressure hose (to possibly fail) out side of the backup system.
>
>To answer the serious technical questions:
>1.  Aquavit, Inc. makes the first stage regulator that includes the check
>valve and PIN pressure gage.  The regulator is a piston type with depth
>intermediate pressure adjustment and is very much like a Scubapro MK2.  The
>intermediate pressure can be adjusted with shims to give about 125-145psi as
>desired. I prefer about 130psi to avoid free flows. Service kits are
>available and X-tra can be serviced by anyone experienced in normal
>regulator maintenance.  All X-tra units are pressure and leak tested and
>adjusted for intermediate pressure.
>
>Jan Troup, President
>Aquavit, Inc.
>email: aquavit@aq*.co*
>
>
>
>
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