>Subject:     Re: DRY suits
>Sent:        4/9/98 12:12 PM
>Received:    4/11/98 12:45 AM
>From:        MAG Man, mag_man@de*.bb*.co*
>To:          Cavediver, cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
>             Frank Johnson, fwjohnson@we*.ne*
>             Mike Wells, mike.wells@cm*.co*
>             Techdiver, techdiver@aquanaut.com
>
>                      RE>>DRY suits                                4/9/98
>
>Mike..
>Happily, we agree on one thing...try it before you invest in it.  
>
>However, personal preference and personal opinion, as well as matching a
tool
>to a specific task, are important in this process.

Personal opinion have nothing to do with a decision unless there is 
similar quality and performance involved!  It is just not there in this 
case!!!!

>  That's why there's a
>broad
>choice to be made. 
>
>My reply to your original post was directed at your PERSONAL OPINION of
>Viking
>Dry suits.

Everything I stated was fact, not opinion (I own one).

>  They're clearly not your personal preference.  You're a walking
>testimony for DUI.  But for the record, Viking does not market the Sport or
>the PRO as suits for "commercial applications".

I didn't say that Viking marketed them as that, I said that they were 
used in that application and that they were good for that application.  
Correction, NOT THEY!  The sport is nothing more than a piece of shit 
with a capital S.  No commercial diver would even come near to one.  It 
is common knowledge that the crotch areas and some other seams in the 
sport's lining go bad and then the rubber breaks down because of lack of 
support from the lining.  Some of these suits have gone bad in as little 
as 1 to 2 yrs.  Value for dollar????
  
>
>BTW...CF200s do tear...nothing is bullet proof.  Hypothetically, if yours
did
>somehow manage to become torn, how would you repair the suit?
>
>MAG


Nothing is bullet proof, but I was using that term in a comparison form.  
The crushed neoprene is definitely "bulletproof" compared to other suits. 
 Take some sharp object and try to jab it through some scraps of 
different suit materials and I think you'll see what I mean.

If my 200 became torn, I would finish the day with one of my other suits 
and then use the appropriate glues and material to repair it (or send it 
in to DUI).  Your next point will be that it's easier to repair a Viking, 
right?  It is, but like I've already stated, who cares!!!!!....that is 
NOT an important point for deciding on a suit.  Your decision should be 
based on performance while diving in the WATER.  And it doesn't hurt to 
have one that is tough enough to be less likely to have problems (I also 
use neoprene seals for this reason).
Explain to me why or what is better about a Viking for normal sport 
diving (swimming).  What does a Viking have that other suits don't?

You should not only try a suit before buying, but try various suits and 
compare them.  If everyone did this, there would be more DUIs out there.  
I'm not a DUI dealer....are you a Viking dealer or something?  Have you 
ever dove a DUI?  Go try one before you reply to this post!!!!

Later,
Mike W.

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