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From: "Ken Sallot" <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
Organization: CIRCA, University of Florida
To: cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1998 11:33:04 EST
Subject: Re: Sundays quote (4/12/98)
CC: <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Yes. Diet without exercise is wasting time and money. No question 
about it. 

I finally was able to do 6.5 miles without getting thrown 
off the treadmill this morning. Answer is go when they're not at 
"peak time" and they don't care.

Ken

> From:          "Dan Volker" <dlv@ga*.ne*>
> To:            "Ken Sallot" <ken@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>,
<tom.mount@wo*.at*.ne*>
> Cc:            <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>, <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
> Subject:       Re: Sundays quote (4/12/98)
> Date:          Fri, 10 Apr 1998 10:08:17 -0400

> 
> 
> 
> >Sundays quote:
> >
> >"Bone mineral content of north alaskan eskimos", in Journal of
> >Clinical Nutrition, by Mazess, R., 1974.
> >
> >Paraphrasing; american eskimos have the highest protein intake of any
> >culture on our planet (whale, fish, seal, etc), they also have the
> >highest incidence of osteoperosis of any culture because the calcium
> >is leached from their bones.
> >
> >Hey, do you have that study that supposedly says that eating red meat
> >2 or 3 times a week has benefit (aside of to the profits for the
> >american cattle association)? Thanks.
> >
> >Have a great weekend!
> >
> >Ken
> 
> 
> Ken,
> Large protein intake will be desirable from a dietary point of view, ONLY if
> you are working out with weights, and/ or, cycling or similar
> activity-----you need to create a demand by the muscles, for healing-----the
> eskimos will not accomplich this with their normal activity level, any more
> than you can say a laborer or a bricklayer, who works hard every day,
> should be very fit----they may not be fit at all.
> 
> If weight training and cycling create the demand for healing/recovery,  many
> calories will be consumed in the process of recovery.  If you do not do the
> weight workouts---if you have no "maximum contraction" type muscle work ,
> there will not be a "need" for the large protein intake, and the benefit of
> this diet will not exist.  It is an "athlete's diet", NOT a sedentary
> person's diet.
> The discussion on this list is about unfit tech divers, wishing to become
> fit, by strenuous exercise programs, and diet.  If they are serious about
> wanting change, the high protein diet and intense exercise will help them
>  if they are strict with it). If they are not serious, and NOT STRICT, they
> might as well ignore all of these discussions, and try some losing
> proposition like Jenny Craig.
> 
> Let me say this one more time----the diet and exercise scheme I have been
> talking about,  CAN NOT BE DONE "HALFWAY"..... you must stick exactly to the
> diet, and you must workout on a seriuos exercise program. This is THE ONLY W
> AY this type of diet will work.  If you did Terry's diet, which assumes
> intense workouts, and you elect NOT to do the workouts, but stick to the
> diet anyway----you will NOT lose weight, and you may even GAIN weight. The
> formula for success here is very exact.  The people who are too lazy to do
> the intense workouts ( including the ones who convince themselves they were
> too "busy" to do them) should decide right now, they will never become fit,
> and save themselves from the agony of another fitness failure.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Dan Volker
> 
> 
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