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At 08:54 PM 29/03/1998 -0800, John B. Crabby wrote: >Billy, it seems that you are the Obie Wan of >assholes, so try stuffing something else besides >turds in your piehole for a change. John, congratulations. Not only have you turned up late with nothing to say, you've also managed to produce the most anally fixated post ever to appear in techdiver. This signposts the way to a very dark and foetid mind. Were you troubled, I wonder, by some too- rigorous potty training sessions as a youngster? Do you feel the need to give us any other little glimpses of your secret life. rgrds billyw > >---bdi@wh*.ne* wrote: >> >> At 01:04 PM 23/02/1998 -0000, Phil Clarke wrote: >> >Michael, >> > >> >>>> 2m hoses do not make for easy kitting up >> >>>> in limited space on a choppy sea >> >> What's so hard about grabbing the long hose and >throwing the reg >> round your neck? If you have trouble doing this, >you must have >> trouble dressing yourself in the morning. >> >> >>> As far as I can tell, you dive with a Buddy >Commando, 15l single steel >> >>>and a pony, assorted knives strapped to various >body parts, and lots >> >>>of other good stuff, and you do short dives. >> >> >Commando, 12l steel with Omega II main reg (side >exhaust), 3l pony with >> >Apeks reg (front exhaust, no confusion), Polar >Bear membrane suit. >> >Diving up to 40/50m on air or nitrox as >appropriate, Buhlmann tables, no >> >deep overhead environments on this kit. >> > >> >>> Now please take the time to explain to me (or >the list) point by >> >>>point how your setup is superior to a Hogarthian >rig in your >> >>>*situation*. >> > >> >Firstly, I dive no-stop or short stops in the >north seas due to limited >> >slack water times - therefore I do a whole dive on >my 12l with plenty of >> >reserve, even filling a few lifting bags, and >never touch my pony. I >> >dont need the weight of twin 10's, & could >consider the manifolding >> >joints to be 4 extra failure points and the >isolator a 5th. >> >> Phil, you're inventing stuff again. What's wrong >with a Hogarth >> single rig and a sling pony? >> >> >The pony is enough gas to reach the surface and do >deco from 40m. I can >> >detatch the pony & hand it to someone in extreme >circumstances, or if >> >the Hog'ers send an assasin to trap me in a silty >wreck & drain my 12l I >> >can ditch main kit and take the pony only, which a >Hog'er couldnt do. >> >> Don't be blockhead Phil. I can unclip my sling >cylinder and >> hand it off anytime during a dive or before I climb >onto the >> boat. Again you DO NOT understand the Hogarth >system and are >> blabbering nonsense. >> >> >I carry line cutters. I guess the WKPP dont >encounter much monofilament, >> >but they still swear that one small knife is the >only way to dive. >> >> This is ignorant bullshit. Plenty of Hogarth divers >carry >> line cutters in place of or in addition to knives. >You don't >> understand Hogarthian. >> > >> >My rig comes off with 4 buckles beside the RIB and >can be lifted away so >> >I only have my own bodyweight to haul into the >boat. >> >> A Hogarth single rig comes off with one buckle. >> >> >It takes serious wriggling to escape a Hog rig >with no buckles in a >> >flowing tide - possible, but best practise? >> >> You haven't got a clue, have you? >> >> >Etc. Some are small points maybe, but valid. So >lets drop this "Hog kit >> >is the last word for all" bluster and accept that >Hog is damn fine for >> >90% of tasks but sometimes other kit works better >- even the most ardent >> >Hog'er cant easily cut 200lb monofilament with his >small knife, but my >> >line cutter shears will. >> >> Phil, go away and learn about the Hogarth system >and the Hogarth >> attitude. When you understand both, come back to >the list and >> lets discuss it. But in the meantime, let me point >out that every >> one of your posts demonstrates a deeper ignorance >of what is >> Hogarthian. Let me also remind you of your own >words in another post: >> >> "I'm open minded about kit, annoyed more at the >'Hog only' >> posse's closed minds than their divine arrogance, & >wont let >> my ego kill me -" >> >> You talk about closed minds and divine arrogance, >but YOU display >> both AND stubborn stupidity that borders on the >bovine. You started >> this thread by knocking the Hogarth system when you >clearly don't >> know the first thing about the Hogarth system. >Remember?... >> >> "Hog doesnt work well in the north sea, but it >doesnt make us strokes - >> you cant rely on a buddy for redundancy when >general low viz and sudden >> blackouts (eg. big ship causes incoming silt cloud) >are big issues. Hog >> doesnt work for training new sport divers either, I >pack my own >> redundancy rather than rely on a 6 dive newby >giving up their air." >> >> Phil, until you get off your arse and do some >research you aren't >> qualified to discuss the Hogarth system, much less >knock it. >> >> >> rgrds billyw >> >> -- >> Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to >`techdiver@aquanaut.com'. >> Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to >`techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'. >> > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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