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>Tom Mount wrote: > >>Each meal has to have the correct >>amount of protein in it, always derived from an animal source. Plant >>protein is bogus. > > >thus proving only that this person knows nothing about nutrition. > >protein is protein. >the difference is the fat and all the OTHER crap that comes along WITH >animal products. > Walt, You don't have a clue, do you? All proteins are NOT equal. This is so fucking stupid I wish you were here so I could smack you in the head with the truth. >Dean Ornish has proved this thoroughly (as well as scores of others) >a pplant based, animal product free diet with 10% or less of its calories >from fat is PROVEN to reverse heart disease or prevent it as well as >encourage healthy weight loss. >PROVEN being the operative word I would not argue that a vegetarian diet can be healthier for a "sick" person--one with heart disease or other ailment, than a meat eating diet. I am talking about eating to become an elite level athlete---which is what a tech diver should strive to be--- and a meat eating diet is necessary for the recovery demands of intense physical training. Anyone who really wants to get in shape badly, who has no current medical problem, might as well train hard and attain their goals in the most efficient manner possible. This means an optimal diet. If your not sick already, you should get on an optimal diet.. That means you can not be a strict vegetarian. > >the "need" for animal protein harkens back to a primitive belief that >eating an aniumal gives you its strentgh. I bet there is an amazingly high correlation between becoming a vegan and becoming gay---are you light on your feet ??? Also, I'd say there is an extremely large number of strict vegetarians, who are so unbalanced in their nutrition, that they stink. That's right, plenty of these vegans stink. Not ALL of them, but enough for it to reflect on the diet. > >i'd LOVE to see the double blind, placebo contrlled study that shows your >genius that animal protein is in ANY way healthier than plant protein for >human nutrition. Obviously you're a moron. How many world class athletes do you think you can convince to destroy their elite level performance, by the inferior nutrition of a vegetarian diet. > >of course if it's only his OPINION....then let's not confuse it with facts. The facts are Terry has created custom diets and training plans for world famous athletes, for 20 years. His people win, because of his diets and training---while I still do not know what kind of diet he will put the 300 pound divers on, I have seen the diets he puts professional bodybuilders and cyclists on----and he will not even train a bodybuilder that wants to be a vegan, because the person will suffer too much liability from the diet, to make it worthwhile to train them. Recent pros Terry has created custom diets and training for, are this year's Masters Olympia 1st place winner, Vince Taylor, and 3rd place winner, James Roberts of Sweden. He's currently training some of the areas top cyclists, and has trained and created diets for such notables in Endurance sports, as Ironman Triathlete Mike Pigg, Dave Scott, and Larry Scott. The vegetarian nutritional gurus can talk big about how great their protein quality is, with their little ordered mixing to achieve amino acid balance---but the bottom line, vegans are rare in the world of elite strength( powerlifting, bodybuilding, football, etc) or aerobic power sports ( cycling, speedskating, triathlon) because the diet is too much of a liability. If you are so sick you need a vegan diet, you shouldn't be tech or deep cave diving until you get healthy again anyway. Dan -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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