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At 11:00 PM 3/12/98 -0500, you wrote: >Dan >The reason we do not drift dive a wreck is as I stated before, many divers >with different dive plans, we sometimes go to the same wreck for two days >or just one full day. The wrecks are on the average 30 miles out that's >east not 2 to 5 miles out and then up or down the coast insight of land >like Fl. 2 - 5 Miles.... bawhahahahah Weenie trip!!! If your going to do it, do it over more than a DAY or 2 days... Put some real planing into it. Put the gonads out on the the table and go for it. Tech diving deals with more than just current, it also involves planning. Sounds like going for a day trip only entails a few of the home brewed tanks and a few sandwiches... >On these trips you may have several single tank divers doing many >nondeco dives and some doing the monster deco dive. And as you make one >trip a day you get a mixed group(unless a whole group charter the boat and >even then this some time happens)and even on the deep tech dives not every >ones time is even close (skill level)and many things can happen on a wreck >dive that's keeps the hook in wreck a better Idea here. (too long to list, >all true wreckdivers know these)And if the current is too strong to descend >down the line the site is deemed not diveable at that time,but if picks up >and your into the dive you must deal with it!But as your wrecks are concern >drift diving is best (I think,I tin to take local knowledge as the >expert.This is something you do not do, you sound as if you think your the >expert on everything whether you've done it or not.) hmmmmm When were the words expert brought into this... Damn show me an expert!! >,this maybe true on the >currents as local divers will have more firsthand knowledge. >But as I much as I'd love to say that I've dove deep (over 130) down there >I can not.It seems the boats only like to take locals(this could explain >the high number of accidents down there) or you most know someone to get >you on the boat. Not true, you just haven't asked the right questions or the right ppl. You have to rember that not every captain wants to take just any dick or hairy.. Some are careful at the type of diver that they will take.. Look at it from a captains point of view: "Diver Dick drives up with a truck load of tech gear, certifications, so on and so forth. Does this make Dick a safe tech diver, a kamikaze (SP) tech diver, or an Open water wanna be tech diver?" You have to realize that these captains everyday have ppl come to them saying "I'm A Tech Diver, I want to go to 300', will you take me??" Hell no is the reply for the fact of I don't know you from dick!! Come on, even the local's have found out that even trusting a supposed "TECH Diver" can cause you face (even though this captain didn't cover his ass that well) Hell I wouldn't take you the first time, the second time or even the 10th time out to 300' just for the fact that I would want to see more of your thought process. But hey, I am one of them captains that don't take ever dick or hairy :) >I once tried to get on a boat a month in advance ,but when >I was told I could not deco at 20 and 10ft on 02 that I had to use 80/20 I >dropped my plans.I gave up on the deep stuff down there as my research lead >me too believe there was nothing down there worthy of my skills and that >has any real artifact value. I gess that you never heard about the Blue Hole, the Compass, or any of the other flooded over springs that are around that still hold nice artifacts.. But little do you know grasshopper, maybe one day the light just might go off in your head and you will see that you have screwed up by what you have stated about that your skills are so worthy, and that there is nothing down there that has any real artifact value.. Well Grosshopper, your lost my gain, and I am laughing all the way to the bank... Do some research and you might just get a clue as to what I am saying!!! >So I've been content to venture down there and >do the winnie dives with my girlfriend and other divers until this past >Dec. when I heard of Skycliff the more I heard of how hard it was and >number of locals who had got hurt there fueled my interest in the dive. If you would take alittle time and not be a winnie yourself, you too may be able to do those deep dives that you hear so much about... But then again with someone that wants to dive a wreck because there other divers that got hurt, just droped you in to the MAJOR kamikaze Stroke class.. (congradulation on your new title) You are one sick puppy..Now you have proven why as that none of the locals down here would even be interested in letting you attempt someing like the Skycliff.. hmmmmmmmm go figure...... >I >made the calls,a team from here was forming I had the boat and I got THE >CALL about a better dive I was hired to dive a semi deep treasure wreck in >dec. o only 180ft(can be seen at www.quicksilverint.com)since the first 180'... bawhahahahah got ya beat!!! 12 foot and still turning artifacts up everyweek, rain or shine!!! If memory servers me right, Mel Fisher was in like 60 - 80 foot... Gess us florida crackers aint so stupid after all!! >trip the Fl. divers that were hired will not be back and a handpicked team >that I dive with standby to go back(2 are overweight isn't that great) so >all other dives including Skycliff have been put off. maybe it is a blessing that the divers will not be back due to your "handpicked team". Well for the overweight, that is a totally differnt subject.. >As for Miami,Keylargo,and south not having currents here is your lesson for >the day,Once set in motion,the flows of water in the oceans are affected by >the Coriols force associated with the earth's rotation, so that they form >giant patterns of rotation called"gyres" in each of the major ocean >basins.These gyres rotate in a clockwise direction in the northern >hemisphere and counterclockwise in the southern. ******** snipped to save re-reading encyclopedia quote ********** >deep, and it carries 100 billion tons of water at a velocity sometimes >approaching five knots.I got this info off my tug and if you could see >satellite charts wwwwwhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooooo satellite charts... I'm impressed, and your own tug... Hey when I grow up, can I have satellite charts of my very own??? Naw, don't need them, would take up way too much space in the wheel house.. You keep them... >you would see that even Fl. south has the same current even inshore more >around Key largo area.It depends on tide and moon for its flood and ebb >speed in knots.(for you mph)So what does all this mean it means that you >don't know about all the east coast your hardly an expert in your own area. >So what kind of artifacts do you have? Never mind if you had anything good >I would have already heard of you. >Capt.J.T. > As far as knowing all about the east coast, have more of a clue that what you think that a Florida Cracker would know.... hmmmmmmmm what do I have in the collection.... Wale verts wale ribs mastadon tusk mastadon lower jaw with teeth sable skull 2/3 compleat tib and fib from mastadon pices of 8 many indian artifacts 200 ax handles from bahamas wreck, including many brass pieces and the list goes on................. shall I go on, naw, just drool... :) Capt J. ,CRTT -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. 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