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Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:59:40 -0500
From: Bill Mee <wwm@sa*.ne*>
To: Scaleworks <Scaleworks@ao*.co*>
CC: cavers@ww*.ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: incident statistics
Kevin,

Next time you hit the return key think about what you have written. 
Your statement is complete and utter nonsense and if your intention is
to insult and annoy the membership of the WKPP and inflame the emotions
of all those who read this list, you have succeeded.

These are the facts.  There have never been any deaths of WKPP members
during project dives at Wakulla Springs.  There have never been any WKPP
deaths anywhere, during project dives, within the tenure of the current
Director, George Irvine.  Irvine has been Director now for 5 years. 
During this period of time the membership of the WKPP has grown from 8
people to over 100 and the numbers of dives, exposures and ranges have
increased dramatically.  Many hundreds of mixed gas dives have been
accomplished over these years with no fatalities or serious injuries. 
Things which have caused deaths before 1993  have been completely
eliminated from WKPP dive policies and procedures.  One of the reasons
why we have had no deaths during the most recent 5 years is because we
do not do things the way you propose and we do not use deep air. 

We do not allow personal preference, we do not dive deep air, we do not
allow sloppy convoluted gear, we encourage the highest possible level of
physical fitness and we promote the "Doing it Right" credo.  This
message is apparently a complete mystery to someone such as yourself.  
When you have educated yourself about what the WKPP is all about and how
and why we do things then maybe you can comment intelligently.

Until that time shut up.

Bill Mee

Scaleworks wrote:
> 
> A question on statistics.
> 
> Just finished reading the history of the WKPP on their site, and was very
> surprised to find that since 1993 they have had less than 20 dives there,
> albeit very impressive dives technically and logistically, but in those 20
> dives, there have been 2 deaths.
> They also list a total of 4 members that have perished while diving.
> This over 5% membership death rate, and over a 10% mortality rate per dive at
> Wakulla.
>  I was under the impression that the group was incident free. Are there
> mitigating circumstances that the deaths are not included in the overall
> picture?
> 
> This is not an attack on the WKPP's commitment to safety, dedication to the
> sport, or equipment , I understand that these are high risk, on the edge
> dives, with a high degree of potential danger. Just wondering how incidents
> are factored in to information released to the public by groups such as the
> WKPP, DAN, etc. Is there a standard in the industry for accident analysis?
> Maybe a question for their public relations  and safety director to answer.
> 
> Kevin
> Skippy the punk Gannon :)
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