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From: Scaleworks <Scaleworks@ao*.co*>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 1998 17:43:23 EST
To: dlv@ga*.ne*
Cc: jjcave@ib*.ne*, cavers@ww*.ge*.co*, GIRVINE@bl*.ne*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com, wreckdiver@wr*.co*, wwm@sa*.ne*,
     brownies@ne*.ne*, kirvine@sa*.ne*
Subject: Re: Tragic technicaldiving
In a message dated 98-02-27 15:41:00 EST, dlv@ga*.ne* writes:

<< There is no way you are going to lose the present ease of tech
certification
 , from at least one agency---and there should always be a freemarket driven
 niche for the low level agency who will certify anyone for tech. There may
 always be obese, pot smoking, lazy slobs who have Brett Gilliam posters
 hanging by their sofa, so they can toast him to their next 6 pack of beer.
 I see this as sad, but very true .... But you better hope they don't have so
 many accidents that they bring Federal regulation on us.
 Regards,
 Dan >>

Hi Dan,

I don't believe you followed my train of thought on the issue. I believe that
the agencies should be responsible for what they claim to be responsible for,
training, and training alone. I do not believe they have any place, or are in
any way qualified to "regulate" a divers choice in depth of dive, training
regiments, or gases breathed. Is Federal Regulation any different than what
you propose, and if these are the guidelines you desire in the industry, maybe
the Gov't is a hell of a lot more qualified than the present choices to
regulate what a diver does. My feeling is no one has the right. 
I believe what you propose is exactly what many deep divers do not need right
now. I am sure you are aware of the number of divers who actively dive deep on
air, against what you so actively lobby for. Be assured that one reason they
are not diving mix is the layered requirements of the agencies to achieve full
mix certification, not their undying love of being blasted at 250' on air as
some suggest. You have guys in the Northeast with logbooks full of deepair
dives, with nitrox and O2 deco, who cannot buy a bottle of mix because they
cannot afford the $2500+ cost of certification just to get a fill. Is this
what you want to perpetuate? People dive deep, certified or not, that is just
the facts. Now you want to make it even more difficult for them to dive safely
as you proposition requires.  It is not cheap to dive up here, $100 to step on
the boat with fills, food and water for 2 dives. Who has $2500 to donate to
agencies to fund research for them to invent another level of certification,
when it could be put towards time in the water. The agencies are effectively
putting trimix out of reach for the tec diver of average income. They are
basically holding the diver hostage with these inflated costs and
requirements, knowing that anyone who wants to dive deep, is aware of the
risks with deep air, and would prefer to dive mix. What the agencies are
breeding is contempt for the agencies themselves, and disrespect of the
certification process. Just listen, you will hear it. Why spend $2500 on
certification when you can take a $200 mixxing course and do yourself?  isn't
this prevelant in Florida? 
What you propose is in direct conflict with what you preach.
More is not always better.

Best regards,

Kevin Gannon

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