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Date: Tue, 17 Feb 1998 22:40:41 -0500
From: Dave Mabry <dmabry@mi*.co*>
Organization: Great Lakes Maritime Institute Underwater Research Team
To: CaptnDale@ao*.co*
CC: CHKBOONE@ao*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Cold water performance of Scuba Pro Regs
Just a quick question about the first stage freeze up you mention
below.  Was the rubber cap designed to prevent freezing installed?

CaptnDale@ao*.co* wrote:
> 
> Certainly, a high flow first stage regulator has the potential for a greater
> cooling effect.   The reason we want high flow regulators is to have that flow
> available during those stressful times when it just might be needed.  Sure,
> you could limit the potential for freezing by limiting flow but then you just
> might not get the air you need in a tight situation.  The key is to design a
> regulator that is capable of high flow while incorporating design features
> that protect against freeze-ups.
> 
> Higher intermediate pressure causes a greater cooling effect in the second
> stage, not the first.  The cooling effect is due to the gas expansion.  When
> the intermediate pressure is higher, there is a correspondingly greater gas
> expansion in the second stage.  Poseidon regulators do, indeed, throw ice at
> the diver, but that ice is produced in the second stage.  With their upstream
> design, ice forming in the airstreem would probably cause stoppage of the air
> flow altogether.  In fact, a buddy of mine had a poseidon second stage blow
> right off of the end of his hose due to icing.  This occurred at Lake Geneva
> Wisconsin this last December on a day when the air temperature was somewhat
> below freezing.  Following his dive, he left his equipment laying on the
> ground while he changed into warm clothes.  When he went back to pick up his
> gear he turned his air back on.  There was a bang that sounded like a gunshot
> and the regulator second stage shot off the end of the hose.  It flew 30 feet
> through the air.  It had been attached to a 7 foot hose that was now whipping
> around wildly.  Another dive buddy was struck smartly with the hose and
> stumbled into the lake.  When we sorted everything out it became apparent what
> had happened - The regulator first stage had frozen to freeflow and the second
> stage had frozen closed.  This caused the intermediate pressure in the hose to
> rise to tank pressure, resulting in hose rupture.
> 

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Dave Mabry           dmabry@mi*.co*
Great Lakes Maritime Institute Underwater Research Team
NACD #2093            NSS #42872
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