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Date: Wed, 11 Feb 1998 08:23:31 -0800
From: David Vickery <TwoDivers@wo*.at*.ne*>
To: Techdiver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
CC: Cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
Subject: Re: Sudafed, etc???
Christian Gerzner wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Now I never have nor will take any of this stuff but I was interested in
> this post by Fergus Taylor <ftaylor@pa*.co*.uk*> (not Tom Mount (???)
> but quoting him) on http://www.divernet.com/forum/medforum.html:
> 
> > CAUTION! DO DECONGESTANTS THREATEN YOUR DIVE SAFETY?
> > By Tom Mount. Many of us over the years have evolved to diving drug
> > junkies. We begin our dive day with a mixture of coffee, aspirin and
> > Sudafed. In recent months several accidents and near misses have
> > produced concern as to the effects of Sudafed and other decongestants on
> > divers, especially while deep diving and/or gas diving. However the
> > same concerns have also been observed on more shallow air dives. The
> > opening point of concern occurred early this summer. An EANx cave
> > diver died on a dive well within P02 limits. This was within commonly
> > exceeded air P02 dives. It was noted that the divers blood gases
> > contained a high level of pseudoephedrine, a major ingredient in Sudafed
> > and associated generics. We vaguely questioned if this may have
> > contributed to, or even caused the accident. A diver using air died while
> > cave diving in Missouri recently. Per his companions he called the dive,
> > then bolted! He had taken Sudafed prior to the dive. On one other
> > occasion he had exhibited the same behavior and survived. Before that
> > particular dive he had once again used Sudafed. Early this summer a
> > diver accustomed to diving to 160 feet (48 meters) went almost comatose
> > on a dive. His two companions had to maintain his regulator and assist
> > him to shallower water. The only thing he had done different than normal
> > was to take Sudafed prior to the dive. A Trimix diver on a dive with a
> > reasonable END felt he was losing it. The diver called the dive and made
> > a controlled ascent. Again the only thing different than "normal" was the
> > use of Sudafed preceding the dive. A few years ago Patti Mount took a
> > 12-hour Sudafed prior to diving and felt really "out of it" once at depth.
> > This included feelings of apprehension and fighting to maintain
> > consciousness. That was her last 12 hour Sudafed taken prior to diving.
> > Patti had similar sensations on a dive, which she made after taking a
> > Benadryl antihistamine tablet for a reaction to a jellyfish sting. In the
> > seventies while on a saturation dive on Hydrolab, one of my dive
> > partners developed a cold. The dive medic gave the diver Actifed and he
> > went into a coma for two days finally coming out of it once we were well
> > into decompression. Early this year after taking a Sudafed prior to a deep
> > dive I experienced what I attributed at the time to narcosis, however it
> > was the most severe narcosis I have ever had at a much shallower dive
> > than I routinely make. Since I was on a light Trimix mixture and not air l
> > can only attribute this to the Sudafed. From Australia, Rob Cason
> > reports Oceaneering International commercial dive company banned
> > Sudafed over ten years ago due to its adverse effects on their divers.
> > Recent recreational occurrences in Australia as reported by Rob Cason
> > IANTD Australasia, parallel those referenced above. In fact Sudafed
> > warnings have likewise been issued there. The above incidences are not
> > conclusive as to the adverse effects of Sudafed and/or other
> > decongestants while diving. They do represent grounds for concern and
> > further investigation. Gary Taylor, IANTD EANx IT#13 sent me a copy
> > of the 1991 PDR description of pseudoephedrine hydrochloride,
> > Sudafed's active ingredient. It states: ADVERSE REACTIONS include
> > nausea, cardiac palpitations, irritability, excitement, headache,
> > dizziness, tachycardia, diarrhea, drowsiness, stomach pain, SEIZURES,
> > slowed heart rate, shortness of breath, and/or troubled breathing; with an
> > overdose add anxiety, tenseness, and respiratory difficulty.
> > TREATMENT: Includes the statement, "If convulsions or marked CNS
> > excitement occurs Diazepam may be used." Certainly this is food for
> > thought. Personally I just gave up a ten-year habit of Sudafed diving. If
> > you or anyone you know has had adverse reactions following a Sudafed
> > or other "decongestant used" dive please forward this information to us.
> > We will pass it on to responsible research / physiologist / physician
> > personnel who are investigating this. If there seems to be a trend we will
> > inform you of such in this journal. Thank you.
> 
> Thought you'd like to know, in the event that you don't already.
> 
> Comments anyone? BTW the forum where I found this is the medical page of
> the
> BS-AC.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Christian
> 
> <The only thing between you and the path ahead should be your mind>  cg
Actually I take decongestants at the beginning of each dive day. On a
live aboard, sometimes the congestion gets worse as the week goes along,
and I will take a second dose at lunch time.

The difference is I don't take any of the stuff mentioned in Christian's
e-mail. I have been to a sinus specialist, had my head CAT scanned (they
didn't find anything) and have prescriptions for Entex LA and Flonase.
The Entex is a pill you take twice a day. the Flonase is a squirt. Never
had any problems, including on deep drifts, and deep wrecks.

Stop buying the crap off the shelf in the pharmacy! See a good sinus
doctor.

Rgds, & good diving,

David
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