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phreatic@ju*.co* wrote:
>
> Tim Olsen continues to urge a cover-up....
>
> {snip}
>
> >Now I don't care how "Orwellian" the concept of discretion is,
> >but I think that we should be spreading the teachings and info.
> >from incidents like these among those who it APPLIES to.
>
> What you were suggesting was not discretion, it sounded like a cover-up,
> at best.
Not everyone read it that way.
>
> >Almost EVERYTHING that happens in the news gets FAR too
> >much publicity these days. Look at the Kennedy skiing death.
> >Big fucking deal....they did something stupid...their fault.
> >Still, it's just one more nail in the coffin for the sport of skiing,
> >and everyone involved in providing equipment and services. Do you
> >think the ski hill and equipment companies don't shiver a bit when
> >something like that happens?
>
> That is the point! If they are hurt economically by bad things done out
> of stupidity, then they will have motivation to police their own sport
> through better training. Covering up, as you so adamantly demand, will
> merely allow the stupid practices to continue out of the public eye.
> Public exposure flushes out the rats, as you are rapidly proving to be a
> case in point.
>
It may just be easier, as in the case of tech diving, since the numbers
are so much smaller, for companies to avoid the risk altogether.
Remember, tech diving is a niche within a niche market. From a business
point of view, I bet many companies who cater to us, He suppliers for
example, would rather not. But since their competitors are, they must. I
bet large equipment manufacturers, like Dacor and Sherwood, would rather
have no tech diving at all. The risk is hardly worth the extra effort
needed to cater to us. If this small market was not up for grabs, they
wouldn't miss it. After all, tech diving was created by pioneering tech
divers, not equipment makers and supplies looking for new markets, the
suppliers came afterward.
> >
> >Why put things on the NEWS when there is FEWER THAN
> >2% of the population that this accident could teach anything
> >to.....much less than that if you only count those who would
> >tech-dive. It only hurts us all. We have a great forum here
> >on Techdiver. DEMA is going on. There are newsgroups
> >and dive shops. These are the people and those are the places
> >where the information is appropriate.
>
> "Keep it in the family?" Is that what you are implying? You are sick.
> To suggest that we avoid public exposure, to HIDE the facts of these
> incidents is to suggest avoidance of accountability. In other words, if
> we all keep our mouths shut, we can continue to make money off of this
> without being accountable for unsafe or unsound practices. Listen to
> yourself-how do you sleep at night making suggestions like that?
>
> I don't think that an industry that is as risk intensive as this one has
> any business surviving if it cannot stand up to public scrutiny.
Public scrutiny??? While most of us aggree that Joe Public needs much
more training to do recreational diving than what the mainstream
agencies are teaching, we are going to let him 'scrutinze' these
incidents?? What planet are you on? I saw the Space Shuttle Challenger
explode in the sky, on TV. Did I expect to be included in the scrutiny?
NASA handled it, like the should have. Not the public and not the media.
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