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From: "Paltz, Art" <Art.Paltz@R2*.CO*>
To: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>
Subject: RE: Deeptech
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:48:22 -0500
Cobber, you never seem to stop cracking me up!  Always make be
laugh.....  :-)

Safe diving,
Art.
art.paltz@r2*.co*
Last Dive 1/10/98, Klondike Rocks (lobster dive), 
        NJ 75ft/65 min bottom time, 43 degrees F, 40% bottom mix.


	-----Original Message-----
	From:	Jim Cobb [SMTP:cobber@ci*.co*]
	Sent:	Thursday, January 22, 1998 9:34 AM
	To:	roger steele; Tech Diver
	Subject:	Re: Deeptech

	OK, hotmail, I give up. You are right, there is nothing wrong
with 
	teaching deepair. What a fool I was to think this. There is
nothing wrong 
	with this, nobody's died from deepair. All these deaths were
from bad 
	luck. 

	TDI is completely absolved of anything that has to do with
divers dying 
	from deepair, mailorder cards, 1 day rebreather courses,
instructor wah 
	wah dives. Rob Palmer had a heart attack.

	Narcosis can be overcome by practice. Air is great down to 240'.
Trimix 
	is expensive waste of money, only good for 500' dives. You're
right. I'm 
	wrong. I think I'll go out and sign up for a TDI deepair course
today. I 
	understand the buzz is great.

	   Jim

	On 1/22/98 9:01 AM roger steele wrote:

	>Forgive me for not understanding your post.  Your lucid
argumentation is 
	>sometimes overwhelming. However, my question remains unanswered
by you.  
	>TDI was founded in 1994.  The dead list is irrelevant to TDI's 
	>responsibility towards those deaths.  95% of the ones you have
mentioned 
	>happened well before 1994.  (Several of the names that are last
on the 
	>list do not have dates listed.  Also, one of the names on the
list, 
	>Sheck Exley, did not die on deep air, he died using mixed gas,
as a am 
	>sure most of the people on this e-mail list are well aware.
Therefore, 
	>you should strike his name off the list.  This raises another
issue 
	>concerning the reliability of your list. Please provide me with
the 
	>details of these deaths ie. . .  What were the circumstances of
each 
	>accident, were all of them in fact diving air?)  You would be
hard 
	>pressed to convince anyone that TDI's unsafe dive instruction
is 
	>responsible for deaths happening in the 1960's.  If you think
this is 
	>indeed the case, please present your logical arguments so that
I also 
	>can be convinced.  Remember, my question is show me the
statistical 
	>correlation between scuba diving deaths and TDI certification.
In your 
	>comments I see nothing that is relevant to this question. Let
me be as 
	>clear as possible, in the list that you have provided me, how
many are 
	>TDI certified?  Of the ones that are certified, (if there are
any) how 
	>many of these deaths can you directly attribute to TDI's unsafe
diving 
	>instuction?  Please respond with factual statistics. 



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