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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:54:15 -0500
From: Ben Greenhouse <b.greenhouse@ut*.ca*>
To: Jon Breazile <breazile@ne*.co*>
CC: cobber@ci*.co*, nathaniel.fuster@gu*.br*.af*.mi*,
     techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Openwater Hogarthian with PONY??
I'd agree with you on everything there Jon, except for one thing...

Why would you need to plug the burst disc?  I understand the reasoning in
the case of long cave penetrations, but it seems to me that this idea
violates the Hogarthian principle of only using what you absolutely need.
Sure, a burst disc will never blow underwater, but you can apply the
Hogarthian principles to the possibility of accidents above water as well.
I know that the chances of a tank exploding are slight at best, but the
extra wear on your tank will shorten it's lifetime drastically (I would put
the odds on 2 hydros at most before it's returned with a hole punched in
it).  The burst disc is in there for a reason, and with proper gas
management, you shouldn't have a problem.  If you over pressurized your 104
to 4000 p.s.i. (assuming a fill pressure of 2900, since I can't remember
what it is for sure right now), the extra 1100 psi will get you an
additional 39-40 cf.  This would give you around 144 cuf.  Why not just use
double 72's, properly pressurized with the proper burst discs, and never
have to change your configuration, other than adding a little weight?

Ben

Jon Breazile wrote:

> Nathaniel Fuster Wrote:
> >While the 15c.f. pony might be enough to get someone from 130feet
> >to the surface with a safety hang at 15feet, I prefer the extra
> >security of a 30cf just in case.
>
> What do you need a pony for for regular OW diving? I gave all of my
> regular OW gear to my girlfriend, and went with a backplate and
> Brownie's 15 lb wing. I use an 'H' valve on my tank with my burst
> disc plugged. I use the same regulator setup on my OW rig and my
> doubles rig (changing the regs around is a pain in the ass). The only
> thing I'd do differently is use a 'Y' instead of an 'H'. I use a single
> 104, drysuit, SS backplate, etc. If I have a reg failure then you can
> just shut it down, and go for the backup, so why have a pony? Just
> use proper gas management, and don't suck your tank dry. You can use
> a 7 ft hose if you have a light, other wise the 5 ft hose works.
>
> This gives you a nice upgrade path to doubles (if you don't already
> own them), and your gear is identical no matter what kind of diving
> you do.
>
> -Jon
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