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Subject: Re: Openwater Hogarthian with PONY??
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 98 09:58:52 -0500
From: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
To: "Mike Wells" <mike.wells@cm*.co*>,
     "Nathaniel Fuster" ,
     "Tech Diver"
>While using a pony rigged as a "stage", or redundant gas source, I assume 
>that a second first stage via H valve on your primary single tank would 
>be unnecesary.

Look guys, the whole hogarth idea is for decompression diving. Trying to 
apply decompression gas management principles to NDC diving is a waste of 
time. The only use for a pony is to give you enough air to get from the 
bottom straight to your 3 min. 10' stop. A 15 cu.ft. tank is enough for 
this.

If you are decompression diving, then the solution is a set of doubles, 
and turn at 1/3s. This will give you enough gas for whatever situation 
you might come across. 

To rely on a pony for backup decom gas is as stupid as diving independent 
doubles. An H valve is a halfway measure, does not measure up to doubles 
with a isolator.


>
>What if a pony was not used?  Should an H valve be used for a redundant 
>first stage if there were only the single tank.  And if so, is this 
>Hogarthian without a redundant gas source?
>And if it is or not, I always feel safer with a redundant gas source 
>below about 70 ft. or so even with a no deco dive.  This brings me to my 
>next thought; just maybe it would be better to go with a small set of 
>doubles ala true Hogarthian and be done with it.
>
>I suppose either the "pony stage" or the small doubles will work.  I 
>guess I would appreciate any feedback as I get sick when I think of all 
>the money $$$$$$$$$$$ I've waisted on stroke gear in the past, and would 
>like to get it "right" this time.
>
>If not using a battery canister on the right hip, would I be better off 
>using a 5' long hose instead of a 7'?  I think you, George, mentioned 
>using a shorter long hose in openwater.  Is it a 5'?
>
>Thanks to all who have posted on the OPENWATER HOGARTHIAN issue.  You 
>have helped me work out some of the details.  I have the DIR video and am 
>trying to apply it to openwater.
>
>Mike Wells    :-)
>Oregon, USA
>
>


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