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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:00:25 -0800
From: John Walker <techdive@ea*.ne*>
Organization: TechDive
To: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: Added info re three missing in WPB
Ken Sallot wrote:
> 
> Going out and buying the right gear will help you go a lot farther
> but it won't get you all of the way. The one thing I haven't seen any
> of you guys discuss is the fact that the newer divers are lacking
> thought processes. They all seem to just want to "go to the end of
> the line as fast as possible" and prove themself. They're not
> enjoying the cave diving for the cave, but rather the pervasive macho
> ego attitude. This whole "must prove my ability" attitude has gotten
> into the entire "technical diving" community and is what causes
> accidents like you just saw in West Palm. It's scary when 95% of all
> new cave divers don't even live near underwater caves. It used to be
> the otherway around.
> 
> Ken
> ps - Anyone want a dorsal fin hood?
> 
> > From:          "H20caver" <ezimmerm@ch*.ca*.us*.ed*>
> > To:            <polarbea@sa*.ne*>,
> >                "Cost effective home improvement"
<freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*>
> > Cc:            <CAVERS@ww*.GE*.CO*>, <TECHDIVER@aquanaut.com>
> > Subject:       Re: Added info re three missing in WPB
> > Date:          Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:18:07 -0500
> 
> >         This another reason for the mentor program, but it's hopeless as
> > long as the "pay your dues so you
> >         can go on a guided dive-if we like you and you buy the beer"
> > attitude persists. Not everyone who tries
> >         this is going to grasp the technique and develope the ability-no
> > matter how much training-EZ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Protocols need to be established for the conducting of these dives that
> > >the training agencies should insist on before using a given boat and
> > >captain.
> > >
> > >I was fortunate in that when I started doing this type of diving, I
> > >inadvertantly stumbled upon the best instructors and boat captains in
> > >the business.  There were no courses per se and much of what I learned
> > >was by watching others.
> > >
> > >Today, this type of diving is not "underground" and there is no reason
> > >for this to occur.
> > >
> > >I personally have witnessed courses being taught where the instructor
> > >and
> > >students were using dual independant doubles with trimix in one tank,
> > >36%
> > >in another (both back mounted tanks) with 80% slung in a stage!  In all
> > >fairness, most of the instructors I know are VERY conscientious people
> > >who would never do anything such as that, but we need to weed out the
> > >incompetants before natural selection does it for us.
> > >
> > >Joe C.
> >
> >
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Gee Ken, look at most people that do live around cave.  The only thing
can say is " wad ya se down dare ". p.s. I'd like the hood!  John Walker
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