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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:50:11 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Jim Cobb <cobber@ci*.co*>
CC: Tech Diver <techdiver@aquanaut.com>, Cavers List <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>
Subject: Re: DeepTech
Jim, if there were any advertisements in there from anyone other than
OMS or companies that are owned by the same company that owns Uwatec, I
would be very suprised. 

The fact is that Gillaim got covered up with letters complaining about
his bs , and every one he could get in support of it he printed, just as
in his letter-writing campaign he got a grand total of eight letters,
including him and his employees, and the rest were members of the USDCT.
Mike Kravitt, who is responsible for more horrifying fake email than I
ever was, with content that is beyond the pale,got quoted on some lame
nonsene only because he appeared to agree with Gillaim in his own
bizzare sense of humor, like the rst of us do not know where that came
from.

This had a profound impact. I can fax out a copy of my new permits that
this dope tried to prevent that I just got, and Bentley has photos of
the last pile of gear we got from the companies he tried to poison us
with. They ignored him and the usdct.

Obviously , this guy carries no "weight" anywhere but in his boots, and
the list of his supporters ( those still living) count amoung their
ranks some of the most egregious do-nothing strokes in the community.
His usdct buddies failed to show at Wakulla as predicted by me, his
idiot deep air diving buddies pulled off some of the worst accidents of
1997, and Rob Palmer's friends ( the subject over which Gilliam
freaked), all admitted Rob was deep air diving in Hurgata, as I said he
was. I spoke at every conference that I was invited to des[pite his
efforts, magazzine stories about us were written everywhere despitee his
efforts, and al that he accomplished was to expose himself and his
strokes to the inevitable "come around".

Gillaim's nonsense got Jarrod Jablsonki to start Global Underwater
Explorers - a real training agency for our kind of diving, and the rest
of the crew ( the only instructors doing real diving here in TDI to quit
TDI. He and the usdct pissed everyone off so badly with this tactic that
the usdct got hosed out of their permit - I love that part. 

His written lies to my employer have earned him another suprise, and his
employer in turn got notified ( and properly warned, as did the
magazine) of what he did - legally. His performance here was specatular.
like a trained seal, and he proved to be everything I said he was, and a
lot more.

Annette Long even lost enough weight to look like a human being instead
of a float in the Rose Bowl Parade, as did Zumrick. I am sorry to
report, however, that Chris Brown is still a horrifying asshole - can't
win them all, but the good news is, we win , again, and we haven't even
pulled our guns yet - the best is still to come.......... 


Jim Cobb wrote:
> 
> <In my ongoing effort to save my fellow divers money, here is yet another
> review of a lame dive magazine>
> 
> Much to my surprise when I got home today what was in my mailbox? A copy
> of issue 10 of DeepTech. For some mysterious reason my subscription seems
> to have started up again. I don't know wether to laugh or cry. But this
> is fortuitous because now I can save you guy's $9.95 (or however much
> your local dive shop is nailing you for).
> 
> Let's see. In the letter section there are 4 letters from Brett Gilliams
> Brown Nose Club telling him what a GOD he is for devoting an entire issue
> to slandering George Irvine. One guy, Kevin J. Freeland, does not only
> kiss Gilliams butt, but he crawls up it and gives Bretts intestines a new
> white-wash job. He has something to do with Gulf Coast Dive Pros,
> probably an establishment to avoid.
> 
> Mike Kravit's letter shows up and Gilliam gives one of his classic cock
> and bull responces, and I quote:
> 
> "It's not about advocating unsafe diving practices (which none of us do);
> it's about how persons choose to conduct themselves in society"
> 
> So let me get this straight, it does not matter that all these TDI people
> died doing TDI sanctioned deep air dives, it's about the fact that they
> did not get on the internet and offend people? Well, now there's a twist.
> 
> "Personally, Idon't spend a minute of my day wasting my time on him, I've
> simply got better things to do"
> 
> Anyone who has spent any time on these list knows what a black-faced lie
> this is. I believe the Gilliam does not spend a waking hour without
> plotting on how to fuck with G.
> 
> Well, enough of that bullshit. Moving on we have an article by Guess Who
> on, drumroll please, decompression sickness. For a minute there I thought
> I was reading Dive Training, this article would fit in perfectly.  Some
> nuggets from this intense, fact filled treatise:
> 
> "Contributory Factors To DCS- Depth, Time, Rate of release (dive profile)"
> 
> Well, I'll be danged, I didn't know that! The rest of the article looks
> like a re-write of a PADI manual. I think this is called "filler"?
> 
> Moving right along.. Exercise during decompression? Egghead mumbo-jumbo,
> Doppler says yes, but can you doppler slow tissues? Don't think so. hmmmm.
> 
> Portable chambers- there's about 4 of them.
> 
> Florida's Wreck Valley- Another informative fluff piece by HFS, go's into
> what great buddies he and Tom Mount are, must have been written before
> the big falling out... Yup, says he was finishing up photos for Mixed Gas
> Diving, pub. '93. Boy, blowing some dust off the old reject pile, Brett?
> 
> Ad's, ad's from the usual suspects.
> 
> Next a 100 word art on side mounts by Brett's best friend, Lamar Hires.
> Take a transpak and clip some stage bottles on the side. There ya go!
> 
> Now this is ironic, a blue hole expedition article. Spooky.
> 
> Finally an interview with Lamar Hires, as I'm not a caver, I won't
> comment on this one, but it was pretty boaring.
> 
> Very few ad's in this issue. Could it be that companies are a bit nervous
> being associated with with magazines devoted to deep air and personal
> vendetas? Time will tell...
> 
> There you go, I've just saved you guys another $10.00.
> 
>   Jim
> 
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