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Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:39:52 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: JScarabin <JScarabin@ao*.co*>
CC: gzambeck@us*.ne*, cavers@ww*.ge*.co*, techdiver@aquanaut.com,
     freeattic@co*.ci*.uf*.ed*
Subject: Re: comments on Zambeck being a moron
Brent, Zmabeck has his won track record of dead students, lying, and
stupidity complete with proof. He is well-known to those in his area as
a stroke, and now he has moved to Tennessee where he had become an
expert in our area.

Whenever I see you or Sankey ( the two World Record holders for cave
penetration) talk about taking anyone else diving in Leon Sinks, it
serves to remind me that nobody in the "community" has ever done
anything there but us, and the super stars of personal preference and
strokedom have all left their their hero clips a good 8000 feet from
where we are exploring, and I read them each time at both ends when I am
making my first deco stop, but these are the same people who say we do
not know what we are doing.

The reason for this is best exemplified by the terms "Zambeckian Moron",
and "Stroke". 

The "diving challenge" I would like to issue is for these big mouths to
do what it takes to do what we do, and show something as successful, or
take a seat. The good thing about challenging somebody to do what we do
is that a) it would take years of work they have not done and will not
do, 2) it takes doing it right teamwork, a concept they can not grasp,
3) it takes genuine comittment, and 4) the Wizzard is closed for
business.

Nobody has ever been killed copying us - it is too much work, there is
no buzz to go with it, and there is no instant gratification or room for
lying .

JScarabin wrote:
> 
> <  EST, gzambeck@us*.ne* continues to write the most obtuse, dopey, non-
> sensical  gibberish that has been on these list in a long time:
> 
> < George
> 
>   Blah, blah, blah ....
> 
>   Greg Z.
>    >>
> 
> Mr. Zambeck:
> 
> With all due respect, which as far as I can tell is very little if any, but
> hey...
> You are completely unqualified to comment on anything that George or the WKPP
> does, otherwise you would not be posting the asinine challenges and buffoonery
> that is the principle element of your post on this forum. If as a result of
> some appalling psychosis you do feel you are qualified to comment on what
> George or the WKPP does, I would like to issue a challenge to you. LET'S GO
> DIVING. I realize I will have to obtain a variance for rule #1, but I'll take
> care of that. I say we dive Tallahassee Power Cave, you seem to have taken
> exception to the Gavin scooter that George makes, and as the original Gavin
> scooters were designed to extend the end of the lines in Tallahassee Power
> Cave ---  HEY, are you following along here Greg? Try to keep up. . I thinl we
> will have to go to Cheryl Sink, since a body recovery there will not threaten
> any of our permits. No, I take that back, I wouldn't let you die and ruin my
> track record. Besides I want to laugh at you in your face as you remove your
> soiled drysuit. My guess is that we'll have to tape your thumb down to get
> anywhere into the cave. We'll leave this as an open invitation.Scooter of your
> choice. Anytime, Maroon.
> 
> uh, ...   prosper anyways,  -Brent
> 
> BTW, I love the way this subject line keeps being repeated. This should
> probably be a clue to you of some kind...  nevermind.
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