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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:14:31 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Andy Schmidt <ASchmidt@ni*.ne*>
CC: cavers <cavers@ge*.co*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: CDS and NACD Accident Analysis Files
Andy , you don't get it - sites are being closed every day, and the
scenario you have constructed here : deep air, athsma, drug abuse, and
incompetent buddies - is part of why.  And by the way, Andy, that only
applies to guys like you : we dive wherever we please, and you still
don't get it. Keep telling us we are wrong and you are right.

Today we have FRONT PAGE HEADLINES in the Ft Lauderdale Sun Sentinal
about the three missing "tech" divers in Palm Beach. No float ball, one
ran out of gas and boogied, wetsuits with steel doubles and steel
stages,and now the Sheriff stopped me from doing a body recover dive
because they are scared that I will get killed, although this is a
weenie dive for me and my guys, and he is trying to use a submarine to
look for the bodies.

But no, Andy , you are right - everything is cool out there. The
newspaper ALSO DISCUSSES ATTEMPTS TO PASS LAWS ABOUT THIS KIND OF
DIVING. They also claim that one fo the guys who got killed, and they
have a picture of him , "wrote the book" on this kind of diving.

You can whine and play the personal preference tune all you want, you
won't be diving anywhere worth while if this keeps up. The problem is
the instruction out there, Andy, and you are part of that problem - big
time.

Andy Schmidt wrote:
> 
> Michael:
> 
> >> that's like saying that most air crashes involve some sort of pilot
> error. But you just cannot stop there, but need to analyze the nature of the
> error. <<
> 
> Agreed, compare the following two reports on a HYPOTHETICAL incident.
> Hopefully it demonstrates why I prefer one version over the other.
> 
> Version A
> 
> A 37 year old diver from Massachusetts drowned at Balucci Springs, FL on
> February 31, 1998. The victim had been diving with 2 companions. It was
> their first dive for this weekend. All three divers were Full Cave
> certified, carried 3 lights per diver and were diving normoxic air. The
> divers reached the "Room of Pearls" where they called their dive on thirds.
> Maximum depth recorded was 157 feet, the diver reportedly went without
> incident. After 25 minutes dive time they started their decompression at 20
> feet on 100% oxygen just outside the cave entrance. Several minutes into
> decompression, the victim signaled trouble to his companions, moments later
> his body went limb, the regulator fell out of his mouth and the body was
> sinking to the bottom of the spring.
> His dive companions surfaced the body and alerted bystanders who immediately
> started CPR without ever reviving the victim.
> The county coroner ruled this an accidental death. Results of a standard
> drug test suggest the use of a controlled substance 12 to 24 hours prior to
> the dive. In addition an inhalator was found in his personal gear.
> 
> Version B (by the time the Tech-Diver list gets the news...)
> 
> Another Deep A
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