All those same arguments (with a few imaginative changes) could be applie=
d to running a reel.  Contigency plans could be made for all these situat=
ions, such as running the tether through an eye near the edge of the hole=
, with a stopper knot at the end of the line, should your tender get shot=
 or bored while you're in the ice (?).  As an earlier post pointed out, i=
f a buoyant tether breaks, you can at least somewhat retrace your steps a=
cross the ice.  I liked that idea of the snowmobile too, how about you gu=
ys?

Ben

Jon Guizar wrote:

> Solitude....well, I have been know hover and watch the fish.   I had a =
staring contest with a large mouth bass one time that lasted more than 30=
 minutes.
>
> I agree with the low vis comfort factor.  You need to be "current."   I=
 just got back from some Florida diving because I wanted to get away from=
 the low vis for a while...that didn't happen, but at least we felt at ho=
me on a few dives of 3 to 5 feet vis.
>
> As for the line issue...It really does depend on the bottom composition=
=2E  We usually have  trees, rocks, wreckage, and other stuff to tie off =
to.   In the case of a "mud" bottom...well, that throws a wrench into thi=
ngs.   Now there might be a valid argument as to which is better, that bi=
g yellow line clipped to your rig or the logistics of placing weights or =
something to hold the line.  Now I think we are back to the paranoid thin=
g again.  With a 1/4" line just dangling in the water, you have little ho=
pe of getting out.  So let's see,  a tendor gets spooked because of crack=
ing ice and is not dressed to be in the water.  Some moron from the same =
hole or another panics as they entangle in the line near the end of the d=
ive when they weren't managing air properly.  It's cut the line and get t=
he heck out or drown.  You are 100 feet out doing a circle and the line g=
ets caught on some sharp wreckage and cuts, you give the O.K. tug only to=
 find a slack rope.  How long were you swimming? Are
> you in range of the safety diver?  Is the safety diver O.K.?  How long =
do I stay here before I need to start looking for the entrance myself.  I=
f you were watching your air pressure and it is getting lower and lower a=
nd lower, will you have the discipline to stay put until your tanks are d=
ry?  I really doubt it.  Is it responsible to put all your marbles in som=
eone else's bag and hope that they take care of you?   Too many things ca=
n happen that instantly take you from total control to NO CONTROL over th=
e situation.  That is where I have a problem.   I am not a control freak =
or anything....unless we are talking about my life of course.
>
> Maybe this is ridiculous, but if the 14 year old, hunting deer on the s=
ide of the lake thinks your tendor is a twelve point buck and doesn't mis=
s that 1000 yard pop shot, you need to have an out.  That's my big hangup=
, having an out if the shit hits the fan.  I need to be totally self suff=
icient or the comfort level is just not there.  That's the independence t=
hing again.  Don't get me wrong, the buddy system is the best but only if=
 you can get yourself and your buddy out if it comes to that.
>
> So then.  The real issue is......if your line no longer goes to the exi=
t for whatever reason, using current ice diving practices, what form of s=
elf rescue do you have?  Emphasize the word SELF.
>
> Jon
>
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