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From: Jon Guizar <jeg154@ps*.ed*>
To: "'Sami Viljanen'" <SamViljan@jy*.fi*>,
     "techdiver@aquanaut.com"
     ,
     "nlevake@pi*.co*"
    
Cc: "cavers@ww*.ge*.co*" <cavers@ww*.ge*.co*>
Subject: RE: Icers
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:11:55 -0800
Sami - Sounds like a busy place at the hole with all those people and =
all that gear and all those lines going everywhere.

I haven't seen any of those dudes from MIB yet but I was just concerned =
with the ability to find your way out if the line WAS compromised.   Not =
addressing the possibilities of how it got that way,  just that there =
you are under the ice and your line is broken.   How would you rescue =
yourself?

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From:	Sami Viljanen [SMTP:SamViljan@jy*.fi*]
Sent:	Monday, January 12, 1998 11:50 PM
To:	techdiver@aquanaut.com; nlevake@pi*.co*; jeg154@ps*.ed*
Cc:	cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
Subject:	Vs: Icers



>>> Jon Guizar <jeg154@ps*.ed*> 01/13 6:30  >>>

Ok I'm CMAS diver from Finland and we dive here quite
often under ice so I speak what safety rules we use. The
safety line is maxium 150 feet(50 meter) but line tender gives only
half of it to the diver (25 meter). Only two diver can dive same
time from "icehole". Then you need to have safety diver ready
to dive. All divers have own line tender plus one person ready
to call help, assist CPR etc. So minium amount of ice diving
team is 5 person.

About the diving. Line is tied under weight belt to the diver hips.
It must hold (i dont remember correct weight) but maybe 300 kilopond =
pull. My own lasts probable 500-600.  The line tender
keeps line tight during dive.


>Maybe this is ridiculous, but if the 14 year old, hunting deer on the =
>side of the lake thinks your tendor is a twelve point buck and=20
Or how about if guys from MIB think that diver is some humanoid
coming from Atlantis and shoots with bazooka hole team.

>So then.  The real issue is......if your line no longer goes to the =
exit >for whatever reason, using current ice diving practices,=20
Excuseme I don't understand how it don't go exit if it isn't cut loose.

Sami=20

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