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Bill, if Andy is implying that we have no respect for fine cases like Dennis Sirven , who got shit-faced, smoked a joint, dove to 400 on air intending to go deeper with another diver's safety bottles, and got killed doing it, he is dead right - Sirven was a STROKE. If you will recall , I called that one perfectly at first sight, as I did Palmer, Parker, and many others. I was PROVEN right after the fact. Truth is that Andy does not want to face reality, and the reality is that we have nothing to do with the "community" , as they do nothing but cause us problems, and mostly by doing the kind of thing Sirven did. I know these people , Andy, you don't , and Sirven is just one of many who do exactly the same thing right here and now and I will be glad to plaster their names all over here if it will help your stupid ass understand the problem. The fact is that I am far more qualified to discuss accident analysis than Andy ever will be, and our track record at WKPP, which excludes strokes like Andy who preach and practice sheer stupidity, is flawless under our current leadership. We are the real community, and we will be around long after the strokes are not allowed to dive anywhere with anything. Bill Mee wrote: > > Andy Schmidt wrote: > > mostly from less-seasoned hot-heads who somehow see a > > proportional relationship between the amount of messages produced and their > > self-esteem. > > Andy Schmidt also wrote: > > >Instead of waiting for all facts to come in, cases are > > speculated upon, victims are labeled, techniques and skills are -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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