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Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:03:29 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: "Thomas A. Easop" <tae@pe*.ne*>
CC: Anthony DeBoer <adb@on*.ca*>, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Mrs Paul's frozen bondage wings
Tom, this is more of your inane , misinformed, strokeaphilic cacca:
bondage wings are an accident by a stroke who does no diving , and do
nothing but cause clusters, not just because only a stroke would use
them, but becasue they are ill-considered whooey. The spewage that you
just drooled out here is way off the mark. The only way to keep bondage
wings out of the way of sharp objects is to leave them home in a safe
place. These things are the single stupidest invention in diving. 

By the way, you really are an idiot for suggesting that uninflated wings
are a clever idiea, and for thinking that something that is wrapped up
in bungee cords with material bulging out everywhere and crap dangling
from it in every posible spot is anything but an accident waiting to
happen. 

Try looking at real wings done right, and keep your ignorance under
wraps.

Thomas A. Easop wrote:
> 
> I have been following some of this thread and wanted to contribute these
>  ideas:
> 
> 1. 'Bondage' wings were primarily designed to keep the wing in close to
> prevent puncture while encountering sharp restrictions, such as
> encountered while wreck penetrating. I do not know that drag, quick and
> any position dumping, and slower inflation were major design
> considerations.
> 
> 2. The bungees that keep the wing in close do not facilitate dumping
> from a dump valve in any position. If anything the preasure of the water
> does that. Ditto for quick dumping.
> 
> 3. 'Bondage' wings and dual bladder wings neither contributed or bailed
> out the situation this particular diver was in. The second
> bladder/system is for failure of the primary bladder/system only. The
> bunges only keep the whole thing from going every which way.
> 
> 4. Dual bladder wings are designed to be dove using the primary bladder
> first and in the event of any problem with that system, (the bladder
> tearing, inflator malfunction, reg shut down, etc.) the air is dumped
> out and the second bladder/system used. They were never designed to be
> used simultaneously.
> 
> 5. If you have ice already formed in your gear from a previous dive and
> reenter the cold water it will take a long time for this water to melt
> the ice. Longer than most dives, including extreme ones. This is true
> for all really cold weather and water dives, ice diving or not.
> 
> Tom
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