I have been following some of this thread and wanted to contribute these ideas: 1. 'Bondage' wings were primarily designed to keep the wing in close to prevent puncture while encountering sharp restrictions, such as encountered while wreck penetrating. I do not know that drag, quick and any position dumping, and slower inflation were major design considerations. 2. The bungees that keep the wing in close do not facilitate dumping from a dump valve in any position. If anything the preasure of the water does that. Ditto for quick dumping. 3. 'Bondage' wings and dual bladder wings neither contributed or bailed out the situation this particular diver was in. The second bladder/system is for failure of the primary bladder/system only. The bunges only keep the whole thing from going every which way. 4. Dual bladder wings are designed to be dove using the primary bladder first and in the event of any problem with that system, (the bladder tearing, inflator malfunction, reg shut down, etc.) the air is dumped out and the second bladder/system used. They were never designed to be used simultaneously. 5. If you have ice already formed in your gear from a previous dive and reenter the cold water it will take a long time for this water to melt the ice. Longer than most dives, including extreme ones. This is true for all really cold weather and water dives, ice diving or not. Tom -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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