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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 09:09:17 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: Steve Schinke <tekdive@ho*.co*>
CC: pduffy@al*.ne*, techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Bat Boy was Re: What is Deep?
This is what is wrong with diving today. Steve, you are one serious
idiot. I just hope you are not a dive instructor, but anyopne this
stupid almost has to be.

Let me assure you, moron, that the apparent limit of deep air was long
ago tested using controlled circumstances, and it is either side of 500
feet before comeplete shutdown occurs, and we are talking a few feet
either way, like the width of a roadway, for example.

What has not been established is the limit of how many times one can
safely perform what was once thought to be dangerous, like what I do. So
far I see no limit, but then a stroke like you does not have the mental
or phyical capacity , nor the balls, to deal with anythign that
requires  what that does. 

What makes no sense is why anyone would want to do something like that.
Why not go see how much anethesia you can handle? Why not get out the
baseball bat, and grease it up?
Steve Schinke wrote:
> 
> >Patrick
> Like i said its a personal choice and so are a lot of things its up to
> individual people to set their own limits.  if certain individuals are
> unable to do this with common sence then the world will learn from their
> mistakes.  Yes there are alot of people that die deep on air do they
> consider the risk of deep air diving acceptable yes apparently.  their
> problem.  Records were made to be broken and deep air is included and im
> sure that the record deep air depth will continue to be moved deeper and
> deeper in the future and the record holders will survive the losers
> wont.  hey if a record is worth risking your life (personal
> viewpoint)then its up to you.  The world isnt a perfect place and people
> will continue to do what they want no matter what so have an open mind
> take it all in and learn.  the best thing you can learn is how to stay
> alive and i would rather learn that fron someone elses mistake rather
> than my own(selfish little me)
> 
> As for the commercial diving most of it is done in swiftwater as opposed
> to deep water.   diving in swift water in zero vis is something you
> should try learn from experience.  I don't claim to be an expert
> commercial diver and dont want to be i do it for fun when i have the
> opportunity(doing hard manual labour underwater for profit for the rest
> of my life isn't one of my goals.)
> as for the SAR diving yes i do SAR dive and i take that very seriously .
> If you ever want to talk SAR civily I would be more than happy to.  And
> yes it is all freshwater(lakes and swiftwater Including ICE)
> 
> Safe diving
> 
> STEVE
> >
> >Steve,
> >
> >I cannot believe the stupidity of this post!  Where have you been?  Are
> >you not aware of the LARGE number of recent and past deaths from diving
> >deep on air?  Where are you getting your information from anyway?
> >
> >There was a list that was compliled not to long ago by George Irvine.
> >Perhaps it should be posted again before some rocket scientist actually
> >thinks you are providing sound, logical advice.
> >
> >In a previous post you claim to perform SAR and commercial diving!  I'm
> >interested in the type of commercial diving you do.  Most divers don't
> >consider picking up the lid of some boater's grill on the bottom of a
> >lake a commercial dive.
> >
> >I'm sure I won't be the last person to blast you for this post so don't
> >bother with some silly defense or response.
> >
> >Patrick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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