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Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 08:28:36 -0500
From: "G. Irvine" <gmirvine@sa*.ne*>
Organization: Woodville Karst Plain Project
To: techdiver@earthlink.net
CC: techdiver@aquanaut.com
Subject: Re: NEW!
Greg, when you can match my track record for cave diving safety with any
form of diving, meet me at Macy's. Under my direction, we have 2,000
long range mixed gas cave exploration dives with no incidents assisted
by 6,000 uneventful support dives, and one of which you are unqualified
to perform, just as you are severely unqualified to judge me on any
issue of diving. Where does a do-nothing  stroke like you , who puts out
retarded nonsense on here which reeks of inexperienced stupidity , get
off telling a guy with the best record in diving that how he will
"perform" ? You perform anything that I do and then talk about me.

You are dead wrong on all of this. The state of dive instruction outside
of a few isolated people is abysmal, and you are living proof of that.

Greg Kuiper wrote:
> 
> George,
> 
> Technically trained if through the right agency means being aware of the
> dangers of narcosis and O2 toxicity and being aware of one's own
> subsceptibility.  Recreational divers have no business diving to deeper
> depths due to lack of training in the aforementioned areas.  I have met
> divers who believe that narcosis is life threatening at 100'.
> 
> Narcosis has to be separated into two categories: physiological and
> physcological. As far as physcology, deep air phobes tend to experience
> higher levels of narcosis sooner due to their fears and misconceptions.
> Also people who tend to be a little high strung like yourself are much
> more likely to get narcosis at depth and panic.  Narcosis does affect
> everyone differently as well from a physiological point.  Some people
> have good days and bad based on their physical traits, ie: smoking,
> drugs, drinking, etc..
> 
> To blanket everyone with generalities is stupid.  It has always amazed
> me that persons such as yourself consider deep air diving dangerous, but
> make multilple cave dives every year where many more people are injured.
> 
> As far as training you, the only thing you need help with is your
> spelling.  Try wearing a helmet, it reduces head injuries.
> 
> Chat with you later,
> Greg Kuiper
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