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Greg, You ignorant slut... Where did you get the misguided impression that I thought that Mike told you anything!!! Second, READ MY RESPONSE!!! I DON"T CARE what that ass that you "got your information" from thinks. Hell for that bone head, thinking is so far out of his range of abilities that... Lets just say that both of you have a lot in common with the scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz. How can I make myself any clearer? As for the few dives that I have done between 130' and 150', I don't dive with George. I have never even meet him. He does not plan my dives nor do I plan his. I do think he is right about using mix shallower than 130'. That is why at this point >90% of my dives below 100' ARE on mix. Maybe you should stop trying to read things into what I say. You are an idiot Greg!!! I have spent much time, money and effort in training to arrive at a level where I can spot a stroke from hundreds of miles away!!! And every time you open your mouth you convince a few more that you are in fact a STROKE. You publicly advocate dangerous diving practices (see "ice diving challenge" and "Tourch Lake - Alternate Dive") and fail to command the respect of your students (refer to the survivors of your student for more information). Now why would I want to take or audit a class from you??? I only give my money to good instructors who can teach me something of value!!! I don't need to sit through one of your classes to know what you have posted here and the drivel you have sent privately to me. I stand behind what I have said about you and will continue criticizing you until you stop making challenges, advocating stupidity, and start earning some respect. I don't need to be at a dive site to know when you screw up!!! I follow no one!!! I dive with a small group of VERY competent diver. No one outside that group of divers has the experience, training or knowledge to comment on my abilities. You can't find any reliable information about me because most of those who know me also think you are an idiot. Your only hope of getting any reliable information is from the one person you said you didn't get your information from. But he is probably not willing to get involved. At least he has been in the water with me in the last couple months. Your other source hasn't spent an hour in the water with me in the last 5 years. I have not been bent, not lost a student, and not made the evening news because of my mistakes. Can you say any of that??? I don't dive with people I don't know, and I don't dive with many divers I do know!!! I have a bad attitude when it comes to Zambeck Stupid, but a great record for being right (coincidence? No couldn't be). I'm right about you. At 09:14 AM 1/10/98 -0500, you wrote: >Bill: > >Slow down and take a pill. Mike didn't send any of this information on >your background. As for your abilities, I wasn't the person questioning >them. I just though you should know what people think of you. > >Now your diving below 130 on air to 150 is beyond George's >recommendation's, but it's nice to see that you are the one making that >decision. If you feel comfortable at 150 on air then I think you should >dive that way. > >I have never told anyone to dive 200 ft on air. I have always recommended >that they use gas mixtures that allow them to make decisions needed for the >dive they are making. Divers making videos like their mix set at 130 ft. >But then they are composing a video and spend more time concentrating on >all of the aspects of the video. > >You sound just like one of George's followers. You never take the time to >attend a class and find out what the instructor teaches and then you start >criticizing. You make the same mistakes as George's dive accident >evaluations. Never get all of the facts, just put some arm chair quarter >back's opinion on the net. > >---------- >> From: Bill (aquadart) Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*> >> To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*> >> Subject: Background check (was: Backround check) >> Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 4:04 AM >> >> Greg, >> >> After a little though I feel that my earlier response was lacking in a >few >> areas. >> >> First why in the world would I care what your cowardly source thinks? I >> know who he is. You might want to ask him if I have video of him >careening >> of the ceiling of a cave in Mexico? You may also want to consider why I >> only did only ONE dive with him (see rule #1). And if I only did one >cave >> dive with him how could he evaluate my ability with any degree of >accuracy? >> Further, who says he would even know a good cave diver when he sees one? >> This moron you are getting your "information" from is has been turned >down >> for a tri-mix class by at least TWO instructors that I know of. He was >> told that he was "not ready". He is not good enough to carry my gear at >> this point. His only saving grace is that IF he would loose the scooter, >> about 70 pounds and get back to basics he MIGHT be a good diver SOME >DAY!!! >> >> Second as for how many tri-mix dives I have done not including Gilboa >> Quarry (0 tri-mix dives) or local lakes shallower than 130' (2 tri-mix >> dives)... About 30 in 1997!!! And what the hell does where a dive take >> place have to do with anything. I CHOOSE to dive mix on ALL dives deeper >> than 150' regardless of the situation. I CHOOSE to dive mix on ALL dives >> deeper that 130' in cold water. I CHOOSE to dive mix on some dives as >> shallow as 100'. If you would pull your head out of your rectal orifice >> you would understand why!!! There is no rule that says that tri-mix is >> only for deep dives. Try a 34%O2 10-20%He tri-mix some time. After a 2 >Hr >> bottom time at 100' you may begin to see the light. However you are >> probably to butt stupid to even run the tables for this and compare it to >> air for deco time. I'll help you a little with it though. The >difference >> is so small it is not important. What is important is the reduction in >> fatigue after the dive!!! Do you train your tri-mix victim... I mean >> students in the use of hyperoxic mixed gas??? Why not Greg??? Is that >not >> an acceptable usage? >> >> I average about 100 dives per year. About 20 of which are cave dives and >> another 30-50 are wreck dive. I guess if that is "without a lot of >> experience" than I am without a lot of experience. However I personally >> think your sources are lacking any real information! I would hold that >it >> is your sources that are "without a lot of experience especially on >> tri-mix". Especially in light of the fact that your source has NEVER >done >> 1 tri-mix dive and is therefore not qualified to even talk on the >subject. >> >> I have never stated my computer abilities. My clients on the other hand >> recommend me often and in the past I have turned down more business than >I >> have taken. I have a full time job and don't have enough time to take >all >> the requests I get as a consultant. I let them make the claims as to how >> good I am!!! >> >> George is crass and rude, qualities I respect, but he is also correct 99% >> of the time, also a quality I respect. When I feel George is wrong I say >> so!!! I speak for me and me alone!!! If G is wrong I'll through it back >> at him as fast as I will you. Is that clear??? The problem is you are a >> dangerous STROKE, George is not!! I have a great deal of respect for the >> things George and the WKPP has accomplished. I have no respect for you >or >> anything you have ever done. You could change that by sitting quietly >and >> listening for a few months. You MIGHT come to understand what people >like >> George are saying. You may learn something. >> >> As for my temper, I can not tolerate stupidity!!! Unfortunately you are >> stupid! Therefore, I can not tolerate you! When I encounter stupidity >I >> have a severe visceral negative reaction. I also have a bad habit of >> yelling at stupid people. It seams that morons, like you, respond to >> volume better than reason. And even if I don't get though they usually >> realize that I am not their friend and they go away. Which is what you >> should have done a long time ago. Most people think you are stupid (I >was >> not the one who coined the phrase "Zambeck Stupid"). And to prove them >> right you are to stupid to catch on. I have never been found to be >> "unstable". In fact one of may friends, who is a shrink, tells me not to >> worry about the people, like me, who get mad. But rather worry about >those >> who DON'T!!! See my problem is that I'm "Mensa". As a result the vast >> majority of the world is stupid from my perspective. So I spend more >time >> than most being aggravated by idiots like you. But I have that well >under >> control. FYI Prozac is an antidepressant and has no effect in >controlling >> violent behavior. >> >> Mike owns a dive shop that I frequent. I'm sure that some days he wishes >> he never meet me. You see I am what you might call a loose canon. If I >> catch him fucking up I have a bad habit of pointing it out. I have >> embarrassed him before and I may again. I would not characterize him as >my >> "bud". I would call our relationship somewhat "symbiotic". Beyond that >> ask McKay. He can tell you what he wants. >> >> Over the years I have been many things to Cynthia. None of them are any >of >> your concern. But it is common knowledge that I did date her for about 3 >> years. However, the fact that I find pretty blonde females attractive, >has >> little relevance to diving nor is it something I am ashamed of. I would >> also like to state for the record that I find most pretty females >> attractive! But I still don't see what baring that has on my ability as >a >> diver. >> >> On the other hand the fact that I get requests from Dive Instructors from >> here to Muskegon to assist them with classes does reflect on my abilities >> as a diver. The Instructors seem to feel that I bring a great deal of >> knowledge and experience to their classes. And that I am able to share >> that knowledge, experience and skill in a meaningful way with students >from >> OW through Tech. I get a great deal of respect from divers who are >> certified to my level. I sure that all of my Instructors are proud to >have >> me as an example of what their students can accomplish in the water. >Just >> like with my computer skill those that know what I can do respect me for >my >> ability. People like you who have no clue, you have never even seen me >on >> land let alone in the water, mean nothing to me!!! Your opinion is not >> based in fact and your conclusions are flawed for that reason alone. >> >> As for what I would like to add.... Nothing!!! You have obviously >> mistaken me for someone who cares!!! I have nothing to prove to you. I >> would still like to have the date and location for the "CHALLENGE" ice >> dive. That could prove to be most entertaining! >> Bill (aquadart) Bott > > Bill (aquadart) Bott -- Send mail for the `techdiver' mailing list to `techdiver@aquanaut.com'. Send subscribe/unsubscribe requests to `techdiver-request@aquanaut.com'.
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