Bill:

Slow down and take a pill.  Mike didn't send any of this information on
your background.  As for your abilities, I wasn't the person questioning
them.  I just though you should know what people think of you.

Now your diving below 130 on air to 150 is beyond George's
recommendation's, but it's nice to see that you are the one making that
decision.  If you feel comfortable at 150 on air then I think you should
dive that way.  

I have never told anyone to dive 200 ft on air.  I have always recommended
that they use gas mixtures that allow them to make decisions needed for the
dive they are making.  Divers making videos like their mix set at 130 ft. 
But then they are composing a video and spend more time concentrating on
all of the aspects of the video.

You sound just like one of George's followers.  You never take the time to
attend a class and find out what the instructor teaches and then you start
criticizing.  You make the same mistakes as George's dive accident
evaluations.  Never get all of the facts, just put some arm chair quarter
back's opinion on the net.

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> From: Bill (aquadart) Bott <aquadart@ix*.ne*.co*>
> To: Greg Zambeck <gzambeck@us*.ne*>
> Subject: Background check (was: Backround check) 
> Date: Tuesday, January 06, 1998 4:04 AM
> 
> Greg,
> 
> After a little though I feel that my earlier response was lacking in a
few
> areas.  
> 
> First why in the world would I care what your cowardly source thinks?  I
> know who he is.  You might want to ask him if I have video of him
careening
> of the ceiling of a cave in Mexico?  You may also want to consider why I
> only did only ONE dive with him (see rule #1).  And if I only did one
cave
> dive with him how could he evaluate my ability with any degree of
accuracy?
>  Further, who says he would even know a good cave diver when he sees one?
> This moron you are getting your "information" from is has been turned
down
> for a tri-mix class by at least TWO instructors that I know of.  He was
> told that he was "not ready".  He is not good enough to carry my gear at
> this point.  His only saving grace is that IF he would loose the scooter,
> about 70 pounds and get back to basics he MIGHT be a good diver SOME
DAY!!!
> 
> Second as for how many tri-mix dives I have done not including Gilboa
> Quarry (0 tri-mix dives) or local lakes shallower than 130' (2 tri-mix
> dives)...  About 30 in 1997!!!  And what the hell does where a dive take
> place have to do with anything.  I CHOOSE to dive mix on ALL dives deeper
> than 150' regardless of the situation.  I CHOOSE to dive mix on ALL dives
> deeper that 130' in cold water.  I CHOOSE to dive mix on some dives as
> shallow as 100'.  If you would pull your head out of your rectal orifice
> you would understand why!!!  There is no rule that says that tri-mix is
> only for deep dives.  Try a 34%O2 10-20%He tri-mix some time.  After a 2
Hr
> bottom time at 100' you may begin to see the light.  However you are
> probably to butt stupid to even run the tables for this and compare it to
> air for deco time.  I'll help you a little with it though.  The
difference
> is so small it is not important.  What is important is the reduction in
> fatigue after the dive!!!  Do you train your tri-mix victim... I mean
> students in the use of hyperoxic mixed gas???  Why not Greg???  Is that
not
> an acceptable usage?
> 
> I average about 100 dives per year.  About 20 of which are cave dives and
> another 30-50 are wreck dive.  I guess if that is "without a lot of
> experience" than I am without a lot of experience.  However I personally
> think your sources are lacking any real information!  I would hold that
it
> is your sources that are "without a lot of experience especially on
> tri-mix".  Especially in light of the fact that your source has NEVER
done
> 1 tri-mix dive and is therefore not qualified to even talk on the
subject.
> 
> I have never stated my computer abilities.  My clients on the other hand
> recommend me often and in the past I have turned  down more business than
I
> have taken.  I have a full time job and don't have enough time to take
all
> the requests I get as a consultant.  I let them make the claims as to how
> good I am!!!
> 
> George is crass and rude, qualities I respect, but he is also correct 99%
> of the time, also a quality I respect.  When I feel George is wrong I say
> so!!!  I speak for me and me alone!!!  If G is wrong I'll through it back
> at him as fast as I will you.  Is that clear???  The problem is you are a
> dangerous STROKE, George is not!!  I have a great deal of respect for the
> things George and the WKPP has accomplished.  I have no respect for you
or
> anything you have ever done.  You could change that by sitting quietly
and
> listening for a few months.  You MIGHT come to understand what people
like
> George are saying.  You may learn something.
> 
> As for my temper, I can not tolerate stupidity!!!  Unfortunately you are
> stupid!  Therefore,  I can not tolerate you!  When I encounter stupidity
I
> have a severe visceral negative reaction.   I also have a bad habit of
> yelling at stupid people.  It seams that morons, like you, respond to
> volume better than reason.  And even if I don't get though they usually
> realize that I am not their friend and they go away.  Which is what you
> should have done a long time ago.  Most people think you are stupid (I
was
> not the one who coined the phrase "Zambeck Stupid").  And to prove them
> right you are to stupid to catch on.  I have never been found to be
> "unstable".  In fact one of may friends, who is a shrink, tells me not to
> worry about the people, like me, who get mad.  But rather worry about
those
> who DON'T!!!  See my problem is that I'm "Mensa".  As a result the vast
> majority of the world is stupid from my perspective.  So I spend more
time
> than most being aggravated by idiots like you.  But I have that well
under
> control.  FYI  Prozac is an antidepressant and has no effect in
controlling
> violent behavior.
> 
> Mike owns a dive shop that I frequent.  I'm sure that some days he wishes
> he never meet me.  You see I am what you might call a loose canon.  If I
> catch him fucking up I have a bad habit of pointing it out.  I have
> embarrassed him before and I may again.  I would not characterize him as
my
> "bud".  I would call our relationship somewhat "symbiotic".  Beyond that
> ask McKay.  He can tell you what he wants.
> 
> Over the years I have been many things to Cynthia.  None of them are any
of
> your concern.  But it is common knowledge that I did date her for about 3
> years.  However, the fact that I find pretty blonde females attractive,
has
> little relevance to diving nor is it something I am ashamed of.  I would
> also like to state for the record that I find most pretty females
> attractive!  But I still don't see what baring that has on my ability as
a
> diver.
> 
> On the other hand the fact that I get requests from Dive Instructors from
> here to Muskegon to assist them with classes does reflect on my abilities
> as a diver.  The Instructors seem to feel that I bring a great deal of
> knowledge and experience to their classes.  And that I am able to share
> that knowledge, experience and skill in a meaningful way with students
from
> OW through Tech.  I get a great deal of respect from divers who are
> certified to my level.  I sure that all of my Instructors are proud to
have
> me as an example of what their students  can accomplish in the water. 
Just
> like with my computer skill those that know what I can do respect me for
my
> ability.  People like you who have no clue, you have never even seen me
on
> land let alone in the water, mean nothing to me!!!  Your opinion is not
> based in fact and your conclusions are flawed for that reason alone.
> 
> As for what I would like to add....  Nothing!!!  You have obviously
> mistaken me for someone who cares!!!  I have nothing to prove to you.  I
> would still like to have the date and location for the "CHALLENGE" ice
> dive.  That could prove to be most entertaining!
> Bill (aquadart) Bott
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