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Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 16:46:02 -0800
To: gmirvine@sa*.ne*
From: Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
Subject: Re: Bondage wings (was Re: Scooters)
Cc: techdiver@aquanaut.com, cavers@ww*.ge*.co*
G - you are the second person that insinuated that I was actually
recommending these things.  Did it sound like I was saying dual bladders
were OK?  

I was trying to say that having to figure out which side to shut down is
another reason NOT to use dual bladders.  ie/ they are a cluster.


At 07:43 PM 1/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Kev, these things invite a cluster, and since only a stroke would have
>them, the odds go way up .
>
>Kevin Connell wrote:
>> 
>> This is actually a good example of why dual bladders aren't so great.
>> Given you have a wing overinflating (or just inflating, both of which are
>> usually due to poor maintenance), which valve do you shut down, or which
>> inflator hose do you disconnect?
>> 
>> On a single wing / drysuit system, the choice is obvious.  Shut down the
>> correct post (or maybe the argon).
>> 
>> At 09:07 AM 1/9/98 -0800, you wrote:
>> >What ever happened to valve shut-down skills?
>> >
>> >Anthony DeBoer wrote:
>> >
>> >> > > I met a guy with a exploded bondage wing yesterday. He had a freeze
>> up on
>> >> > > the inflator during a cold water dive. It resulted in a uncontrolled
>> >> > > filling of the wing. He went ballistic and could not dump air due to
>> the
>> >> > > over pressure thing failed. Can you imagine the sound when a twin
cell
>> >> > > bondage wing explode:-)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The guy did not hurt him self but is no longer looking for a new
>> bondage wing!
>> >>
>> >> The runaway inflator would have only been filling one of the two air
>> >> cells, so it probably didn't sound too much different than a single wing
>> >> would have.
>> >>
>> >> However, the people who advertise this stuff tell you that the other air
>> >> cell gives you redundancy in case one fails, but there's a chance the
>> >> second cell would be compromised by the first one blowing up in this
type
>> >> of incident, depending on whether it blew toward or away from its mate.
>> >> There's also the chance that even intact, the second cell would extrude
>> >> through a split in the outer jacket and cause some really interesting
>> >> bouyancy issues.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Anthony DeBoer <adb@on*.ca*>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> Kevin Connell <kevin@nw*.co*>
>> 
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>> Bellingham, WA
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